Heroin Ive got a question, please respond. Herion/Alprazolam

[Pill__Head]

I know its hard to say for sure, or to give and exact "amount" of the following substances, Alprazolam and BTH, as to which one should not exceed. So I don't fall asleep and not wake (OD). I'd like my heart to keep pounding

Ive currently taken approximately 8-10mg alpraz. About an hour ago now. ( I recently have been takeing 6-10mg nightly for past few weeks, so i have somewhat tolerance ).

Im currently smoking some BTH, i've taken a few hits probs. 80-100mg total smoked so far.

Im kind of starting to stress out, and am worrying a little bit I may have over done it...I mean in all reality I probably won't OD, but IDK I'm worried a bit, and would really appreciate some responses from someone with proper knowledge.

Thanks guys / gals

EDIT:
BTW, I am a large male, 230 lb so I have a larger muscular body. Which is why I think I can take high alprazolam doses

 

[BlueHues]

Don't be fooled by your size, combining benzos and heroin will kill you just as quick as anyone else! Being 230 lbs might give you a little more leeway than a 100 lb female, but not nearly as much as you may think.

You took the alprazolam an hour ago, you have a tolerance, you smoked around .1 of tar...Well, the tar hits and peaks within minutes, and you seem fairly lucid, so you might not be in any imminent danger, but you never know with this combo, it can be very deceptive...

If you're not on a prescribed dose of benzos daily, it just gets even more unpredictable, and you're taking more than the maximum that's scripted anyone..You're playing with fire, be very careful! There's no safe method of doing what you're doing, a lot of people chance it, some live...others fall asleep and never wake up...Keep doing it, and odds are it will eventually end badly...and that's just how it goes, no bullshit or exaggeration!

 

[Pill__Head]

--Thanks for quick reply--

20 y/o , work 40 hrs/wk., recent alprazolam problem...

I cant remember what I was going to say to your response, i'm so intoxicated right now.

No I'm not prescribed anything.

The first thing I should of mention is how I have an extremely addictive personality. Trust me, this is by no means an attempt to make up some sort reason/excuse/what-have-you, because I'm not here to lie/justify my actions, I'm asking for help. I truly believe that addiction is a real medical condition, and can be extreme in some patients for reasons I do not know...maybe someone has some insight?

It seems that, how ever you may "label addiction", as a medical illness ( which i believe is now considered by the medical community as a legitimate "Illness / Disease.)

It also seems that this whole addiction thing is hereditary, because my old man was the exact same as me, largely addicted to all sorts of "downers"Ending up OD'ing and died when i was 7. Alcohol & Opiates.

 

[Pill__Head]

Im about at the point where once it starts getting later in the day 6pm+, I start to get pretty serious anxiety, i feel so stressed out, racing mind, get cold chills. Then It's like Ive got to dose up, or I start feeling like total shit.

I'm sure a lot of you can relate to this or know a thing or two about withdrawls..:/

 

[BlueHues]

^Absolutely...I don't see it so much as a "chronic disease" as a "problematic state of existence", but I believe some people are more prone to addiction than others, myself included...

I encourage you to seek help for your drug issues, whether it be 12 step programs, counseling, or posting in the addiction/recovery forums on BL...but the issue at hand right now, is your use of dangerous drug combinations!

You're much better off using slightly higher amounts of opiates before you mix those opiates with benzos...If you have to use benzos at all, use a much smaller dose than you've been using as the opiate high wears off and you're going to sleep...I personally get freaked out, because I have 4 people that I was personally involved with die from the exact combo you're fucking with! So, I hate to sound like a broken record, but...

 

[Pill__Head]

Well, I'm currently just chilling and going for a more sedative-high if that makes any sense to you, lol.

Yes I know it they are extremely dangerous to combine, but for me it is literally the best feeling.

I know I need to lower my does on alpraz. but my tolerance is so high that i wont feel anything if I usel ess than the amount mentioned about ( 6mg minimum up to 10mg, probly more honest sometimes :/. ) I am starting to scare myself a bit.

I am nodding on and off while typing this, seems like its taking forever to finish so im done now.

 

[ComfortablyNumb95]

you'll probably be fine. just avoid taking such high dose of alpraz next time. you might have a high tolerance but combining benzos and opioids it's dangerous

stay safe man :D

 

[BlueHues]

Well, the only advice we can give you is,
Seek medical attention if you're scared that you're in danger or struggling to maintain consciousness...
Tell someone who lives with you what's going on and what you're using, so that they'll be there to call 911 in the event you lose consciousness and stop breathing....or have a friend come to "babysit" you in case you "fall out" and they have to revive you(if they have the mean) or seek medical attention for you...

Stop mixing dangerous amounts of benzodiazepines and opiates! With high, reckless doses of both these drugs, there's really no way to safely do them...Only on a consistent, daily, prescribed dose of benzos and opiates is it really safe to combine them, and even then, if you decide to just start popping them without thinking about it, you could die easily!

This is why: Doctors are very wary of writing a benzo and opiate script to anyone...They don't want a lawsuit!

So, I wish you the best of luck, and don't hesitate to get help if you need it!

 

[Pill__Head]

Thank you again, man. It means a lot to me.

The problem is I cant tell anyone about my habbits. my parernts cant know, they wouldnt be able to handle it after all the other shit they have gone through because of me.

These benzo's are really starting to effect me, i need to get off them, yet such a godsend; they provide me with such relief.

IDK its so hard for me.

 

[BlueHues]

I hear ya man, it gets to be depressing and lonely when you get into it, it makes you think negatively and tends to give you a very poor "self-image"...but you don't have to keep going down this road...You can still be a person who lives an honest life and adds something to the world..
But, the high that drugs give you are a powerful thing, a powerful "motivator"!

The normal, simple things that everyone enjoys cease to do anything for a drug addict, emotions get suppressed, it sucks!

To get clean requires more than just a passing desire and feeling guilty once in awhile...You have to actively distance yourself from it....

I hope you figure this out, and I hope that if you keep doing what you're doing, you use common sense and don't keep using the doses and combos you're talking about here!

You can start a thread in The-Dark-Side if you want regarding the regrets you're having and the desire to quit, and you can PM me if you have any questions about anything...

-BlueHues

 

[tomatalli]

Don't smoke any more tar I've OD' d twice from a similar combo except one time it was Valium the other time etizolam

 

[smokemctoke420]

I know its hard to say for sure, or to give and exact "amount" of the following substances, Alprazolam and BTH, as to which one should not exceed. So I don't fall asleep and not wake (OD). I'd like my heart to keep pounding

Ive currently taken approximately 8-10mg alpraz. About an hour ago now. ( I recently have been takeing 6-10mg nightly for past few weeks, so i have somewhat tolerance ).

Im currently smoking some BTH, i've taken a few hits probs. 80-100mg total smoked so far.

Im kind of starting to stress out, and am worrying a little bit I may have over done it...I mean in all reality I probably won't OD, but IDK I'm worried a bit, and would really appreciate some responses from someone with proper knowledge.

Thanks guys / gals

EDIT:
BTW, I am a large male, 230 lb so I have a larger muscular body. Which is why I think I can take high alprazolam doses

Everyone thinks they can take a bunch of zannies and not feel it cuz of tolerance. YTou're probaly a zombie and are to high to realize, at least thats how i become on benzos, and thats without opiates and alcohol thrown in the mix. Be fucking careful

Thank you again, man. It means a lot to me.

The problem is I cant tell anyone about my habbits. my parernts cant know, they wouldnt be able to handle it after all the other shit they have gone through because of me.

These benzo's are really starting to effect me, i need to get off them, yet such a godsend; they provide me with such relief.

IDK its so hard for me.

If your parents are even somewhat like mine or alot of other peoples then they will know something is up, maybe not what but they will be suspicious, especially if its a everyday thing thats been going on for weeks. Its so easy to give yourself away and look like a complete fucktard even tho you believe you are fine. They probaly notice but just keep it to themselves like my parents. That is until you throw opiates and/or alcohol in the mix and then you've basically given yourself away whether you think so or not. not telling your parents and dying is much worse then telling them, getting help possibly, and not ODing.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Didn't you already make a thread, asking if your large alprazolam consumption was dangerous to be mixing with heroin? Yes you did.. and we all told you how dangerous it was, and that you were almost guaranteed to OD doing that.

So, pardon me for being a little annoyed now to see yet another thread by you.. talking about doing the exact same thing and asking for help because you feel you're at risk. I mean, really?

Yeah, no shit you're at risk.. you're taking 8mg's of alprazolam and smoking heroin.. if you want to know more about how dangerous that is, go back and reread the other thread you made where we already told you.

If you don't want to listen to our advice, advice that will save your life... fine. But then don't come back here and keep making threads doing the exact same thing we told you not to do and ask for help because you feel you've gone too far.. doing that combo at all is going too far. If you keep doing it, you're going to OD. Nothing we can do about that after the fact, no matter how many threads you make.

We are not a hospital. We are an internet forum... so we can not help you when you inevitably overdose.

 

[teological]

Hey Pill Head, bro look, all of the above advice is spot on. When you combine downers bro, 2+2 does NOT equal 4. You get me.

Now, if you do truly have a addictive personality and you want to get the most euphoria out of your opiates, CUT OUT the benzos. Benzos have been shown to actually decrease the euphoria and positive effects of opiates. I have an addictive personality and always want to make sure I get the most out of my opiates...knowing that benzos have been clinically proven to decrease the power of opiates, I refuse to take them together. In fact, I hate combining them now and never do it. Not only that, but it is extremely dangerous and you will not feel yourself fall asleep, then not wake up. You think you can control not falling asleep, but trust me, you CAN NOT.

What I advise you do, is just try hit a good about of heroin (obviously with regards to your tolerance) and no benzos. You will feel it WAY MORE. If you need to combine it with another downer, so you get that relaxed feeling, try a drowsy anti-histamine in low doses. Something like promethazine. Then come back here and thank me