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IV trouble

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I am having trouble hitting a vein for an IV injection. Its hospital morphine and I'm doesing correctly, and I have the proper insulin needles. The past two times I have tried I have not properly injected in the vein and it bruised. Are there any tricks or Tips (I have already read the lycaem letter)?
 
Ok STOP attempting iv drug use NOW!
IV'ing isn't something you want to learn through trial and error so this means you must have someone experienced who can show you how it's properly done.
Either go to your local hospital or college and see if they have phlebotomy (sp) classes, then you will have even have a fucking degree in IV'ing.
OR find someone else who injects drugs recreationally and have him/her teach you.
But please do NOT continue trying to do it yourself.
A lot of nastiness can and will take place.
--psionic
 
What exactly are you doing. You have to give specifics.
Here's some tips:
Tie off with a turnicate of some sort for sure. Some people think that this is not important. It is. Even if you have nice veins that stick out, the tie will hold the vein in place so it doesn't move around.
Don't tie off too tight. That's a comman mistake. You just wanna pinch the skin a little. Your arm should NOT be purple.
Are your points new and sharp? Dull needles are hard to work with.
Switch veins. Let the one you fucked up heal a little.
As soon as you poke the skin, draw the plunger out a little. Now, as soon as the needle goes thru the vein you'll see the flash of blood in the rig.
When you see the flash, dont get anxious and sloppy. Take your time and whatever you do don't move the syringe cause it'll go thru or out of the vein. Yo should have two fingers up by the tip of the plunger even before you break the skin. This will help to make sure you dont have to climb all up and down the needle once it's in. That's where many people fuck up.
You can take an aspirin to help get your blood flowing better but you probably dont have a problem with that. Your issues are most likely with technique not damaged veins.
When you start injecting, you can inject a small amount, then draw on the plunger to make sure that you are still in the vein. If you are, injext a little more and then check again. You can do this over and iver again just make sure that you dont let the blood sit in the rig for too long or it will coagulate and clog the point.
The next time you miss, put ice on it right away to help with the bruising.
 
Psionic seems to have way better advice than me at this time. However advice like that is often ignored. If you insist on teaching yourself, ask any questions that you can think of here or elsewhwere.
The Center For Disease Control has an 800 number. They are usually more than happy to give IV pointers to people. They're really good for questions regarding sanitation issues like properly cleaning needles and shit like that.
 
Thanks FREEBASE that helps a lot. I don't think I was removing the turnicate before injecting. I should right? Also this time I will be doing it with a friend so that will make it easier. Do I slant the needle up towards my shoulder? How long will it take to feel if I'm injecting properly into a vein?
 
Some people remove the turnicate right before they inject. I dont. remember dont tie it off so tight that the circulation is cut off. You just want to pinch the vein off a bit.
There is an angle that one is supposed to use when injecting. I believe it's 30degrees or so. Ans yes that is angled up towards your shoulder. I dont do this,. My veins are deep and I use short point syringes. I go in a perfect 90 degree angle which some find strange. It works for me though.
Injected properly it should hit you in seconds. Less than a minute for sure. What dose are you hitting? And remember everytime you miss, you're still getting the drug in your system and you should consider this when dosing again.
 
I think I'll do 30mg Morphine. I'll inject 20 and it thats OK I'll do another 10mg. I have a bit of a tolerance. I IM'ed 40mg last time and felt a little, but not too much. What do you think?
 
I think that's perfect. I dont really have any kinda opiate tolerance either. I binge with the stuff and then lay off for long periods. I think I've seen PhreeX say that 30mg of morphine is dangerous. I disagree completely. With no tolerance I start with 30. With a tolerance I go for 60 - 90.
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Any other advice for the trip? Should I smoke a j. I smoke quite often so it would be natural. Should I have a beer?
 
A beer might not be too bad. A few beers could be a problem when IVing opiates. I wouldn't really fuck with alcohol at all until you at least get your technique perfected. Also, if you ever have a problem with overdosing, and an IV overdose is ,uch more of a serious situation than other routes of admin cause you have no time to even make a phonecall or nothin, anyway alcohol would only make matters worse maybe even fatal.
 
30mg IV of what? Roxanol Intensol? MSIR?
30mg IV [opiate] certainly can cause sickness, and perhaps be lethal to an opiate virgin depending on several factors.
As far as a torniquet... some of us don't have to use one at all.
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Its morphine sulphate liquid. I have insulin needles, but they are short. Would long ones work better?
 
tornequet (is that how to spell that word?). Even if you dont need one, and I get really jealous of people that dont, it's still good to use'em cause it does hold the vein in place.
I dont see how anything less than 30mg could even be felt. I get my 30mg doses from morphine sulfate tab. Maybe I'm only recovering 10mg or so from the pills. I doubt it though.
 
Long or short points are just a matter of preference. I like the short ones cause it seems that as soon as the needle is all the way in and the plastic part is sitting flush on my skin, I'm in.
Also, the longer ones are slightly thicker (I dont really understand the guage thing maybe someone can explain. Anyway they are thicker and do a little more damage to skin and vein.
 
I dont see how anything less than 30mg could even be felt.
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Again, it depends on which substance we're talking about.
As far as needles, my personal favorite is BD Ultra Fine 29 Gauge.
The larger the number the smaller the needle (w). I find 29 gauge to work perfectly.
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I agree - it's not something that can be described over the 'net - take the phlebotomy class, it's like a few weeks long and you will learn all kinds of tricks.. there was a really good picture-walk-thru at, um, curesnotwars? It's gone now, if anyone knows where it moved to, or has it archived, mail me..
But yeah, lots of good advice given.. IMO 30mg morphine is a rather large IV dose - it's not dangerous, but for the opiate virgin, it's a bit much.. YMMV ..
You should always untie before you inject - once yer in the vien then loosen the tourniquet.. inject a little, pull back, then inject a little more ..
Welcome to the club! Us IV drug users are the upper-class when it comes to drug use!
Remember, a new fit for every hit, but who the fuck calls them 'fits'? It was just a catchy phrase, but the point is valid - when yer working with a 29g needle, you can only puncture the skin a couple times before it is too dull, and will only do damage to yer viens - something else you want to check for is burs - you can close yer lips around the needle then pull it out - if it rips yer lip then toss it...
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Thanks for all your advice. I got the hang of it and it was quite easy with the 29 gauge I bought.
I did 20mg then another 20 an hour later and WOW!!
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It really was quite awesome. No nausea at all (I'm definatley not an opiate virgin). It was the perfect amount, I really got the idea of what a full opiate experiance is.
I have to say the BEST drug experiance ever for me. I don't plan on doing it again for a while, but IMO it tops all other drugs!!
No brusing at all. I used a new needle each time and never missed. It really helped to have a friend there. He did 30mg and said it was his favourite drug experiance too, and he's a coke-head
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It wasn't hard to convert him!!
 
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