Harm Reduction IV swelling around injection site

[geraggh34]

Hello bluelights, I apologize for not posting in the recent complication thread I couldn't find it using my phone on here. For the second time recently in my forearm I have successfully hit the vein that travels from the forearm up to the outside crook and for some reason only on my left arm it has swelled up around the site. Not red itchy or a big bump like I missed just general swelling around the area and not painful to the touch.

The first time it swelling more and was on my upper forearm and it swelled up and went down over 2 days and ended up just a big bruise. This time it was lower , same vein and didn't swell as bad but still not making sense. Am I nicking an artery while fishing and blood is just filling up the surrounded tissue? This never happens hitting the same places on my other forearm and I know i hit my shots successfully no burning or resistance (it's suboxone too so I would know when I slip out cause of the burn) of course I know how bad slamming subs and pills in general are. I just lost my job and have to make them last so im only doing it for the 100% b/a.

Any ideas? I know without a doubt in my mind I didn't miss either shots

Once again my apologies for not finding the complication mega thread

 

[Swimmingdancer]

It could be a lot of things. The first thing I would ask is are you using proper filtration, using brand new needles every time you pierce the skin, and injecting slowly? If you aren't doing one or all of those things, then those would be my first guesses on the possible cause(s). If there was no pain, burning or resistance than I would say it was unlikely that it was hitting an artery or a nerve. It could also be that that vein has a lot of damage or is too small.

 

[geraggh34]

It could be a lot of things. The first thing I would ask is are you using proper filtration, using brand new needles every time you pierce the skin, and injecting slowly? If you aren't doing one or all of those things, then those would be my first guesses on the possible cause(s). If there was no pain, burning or resistance than I would say it was unlikely that it was hitting an artery or a nerve. It could also be that that vein has a lot of damage or is too small.

I use new pins everytime and sadly have only been using cotton filters. Both times I've had to fish for a short time but do register in the vein and inject the full solution successfully. I don't use a tourni and like I said no pain a little tender but no significant pain no matter how much pressure I am to put on it and no redness. Just swelling that doesn't increase. I rotate my injections also but maybe cocaine and bupe injections possibly damaging the vein?

Edit: oh and yes I inject very slow and carefully and always wash hands and arms before injection And have never had any problem on any other veins including the same one on the opposite arm

 

[80mg]

I think you missed yourshot...does it sting and red? Sometiems a little swelling is normal. How big is the swelling? And dont make it an essay reply please. My attention span is short haha.

 

[geraggh34]

No i honestly believe I did not miss, it was bupe and I know how much it burns when you start to miss. No redness where there is a bit of swelling no resistance or burn during the shot. No skin discoloration at all

The swelling is not like a big bump but more like elevated and tense and the size of like a quarter round but elevated not swelling Like a small isolated area big swollen bump if that makes any sense

I'm sorry if I'm not elaborating real well

Err I didn't mean to say inflamed lol its not red hot or itchy


Edit: it's gone down a little and the skin is moreso tense and a wee tender, no sign of significant swelling or any infection what so ever so I think I should just lay off that vein. Sorry this thread seemed useless mods feel free to delete I apologize I believe there is nothing to worry about

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I don't think (from the sounds of it) that it's anything to be worried about and if I were you I would just stop using that vein for a while
That would happen to me sometimes when the vein was damaged (usually in a place closer to my heart, like if I'd been shooting at the crook of my arm and it wasn't working anymore, so I moved down to my forearm on the same vein).

 

[80mg]

No i honestly believe I did not miss, it was bupe and I know how much it burns when you start to miss. No redness where there is a bit of swelling no resistance or burn during the shot. No skin discoloration at all

The swelling is not like a big bump but more like elevated and tense and the size of like a quarter round but elevated not swelling Like a small isolated area big swollen bump if that makes any sense

I'm sorry if I'm not elaborating real well

Err I didn't mean to say inflamed lol its not red hot or itchy


Edit: it's gone down a little and the skin is moreso tense and a wee tender, no sign of significant swelling or any infection what so ever so I think I should just lay off that vein. Sorry this thread seemed useless mods feel free to delete I apologize I believe there is nothing to worry about

I think you just missed. Ya it burns MOSTLY. But at times when you miss a LITTLE it dont burn. Thats what it sounds like. Needle half in (giving blood in syringe) half out.

 

[muvolution]

Please reconsider injecting bupe, especially in the form of suboxone.
There is sugar in them (the pharmaceutical flavoring #40) and even a little miss invites infection readily because the sugar is the perfect food for bacteria.

Read a few pages of the link in my sig "FOR ALL IV USERS" and see how prevalent issues with iv subs are, for real.

 

[Swain]

Your post is difficult for me to understand.. but it sounds like you are getting swelling at your injection site after you IV.

You are partially missing.. do you shoot without loosening your tie first? YOu should pull back like 2 units at the end of you rshot next time and see if your still in the vein.. you must be slipping out. If you were nicking an artery even a singl eunit injected in there would immediately cause pain swelling hotness tingling and numbing traveling away from the injection site away from the heart so I doubt its that.

If you are fishing for a vein when you register you might be causing some trauma.. but really any swelling that happens directly after a shot is the result of a miss, be it full or partial. If the swelling is getting worse over a few days rather than better than you need to seek medical attention, abscess time.

 

[geraggh34]

Please reconsider injecting bupe, especially in the form of suboxone.
There is sugar in them (the pharmaceutical flavoring #40) and even a little miss invites infection readily because the sugar is the perfect food for bacteria.

Read a few pages of the link in my sig "FOR ALL IV USERS" and see how prevalent issues with iv subs are, for real.

Thanks a lot for the info, it's not something I plan on doing long i plan on switching back to nasal as soon as I get back employed and making it last as long as possible because of financial issues. Will a wheel filter filter the sugar and other harmful ingredients in them? I mainly IV strips and was honestly thinking of switching to IM back ONLY with microns in a bacteriastatic solution. In those circumstances would IM have low risk for infection?

 

[geraggh34]

Your post is difficult for me to understand.. but it sounds like you are getting swelling at your injection site after you IV.

You are partially missing.. do you shoot without loosening your tie first? YOu should pull back like 2 units at the end of you rshot next time and see if your still in the vein.. you must be slipping out. If you were nicking an artery even a singl eunit injected in there would immediately cause pain swelling hotness tingling and numbing traveling away from the injection site away from the heart so I doubt its that.

If you are fishing for a vein when you register you might be causing some trauma.. but really any swelling that happens directly after a shot is the result of a miss, be it full or partial. If the swelling is getting worse over a few days rather than better than you need to seek medical attention, abscess time.

I said in an earlier post that I don't ever tie off and the swelling went down and never came off as a miss to me in terms of how my shot went and how the site looked its been 12 hours and swelling went down it was never red no heat and felt different than swelling of a miss(at least what I believe I have honestly never missed with this possible exception) the skin felt tense no discoloration pain any sting or plunger resistance during the shot. But I guess maybe a partial miss


EDIT: sorry about double post. By the way I always use the vacuum trick to register and register three times throughout my shot at least and if I slip I never get impatient and just push the plunger down I always get back in and register again before I continue. And the swelling, elevation tense skin happened AFter the shot no bubbling up during.

Sorry I seem so retarded trying to explain it basically you couldn't notice the swelling unless I feel/rub over and touch around the injection site it just seemed odd to me absolutely no redness no real big mosquitto bite looking red lump just skin elevated and tight that's why I didn't think there was any miss involved I just thought it may have been blood leakage that caused the bit of swelling. No pain redness heat or any complications during the shot and it just seemed odd. Nothing of big concern infection wise I was just confused on the cause but I think it may be me just puncturing through or damage to the vein from multiple coke and bupe shots. I always rotate sites too

 

[80mg]

No offense man but everyone here has given you there opinion. If you disagree with it, hey whatever. Let's look at the facts

It swelled
It was immediate
You "registered"

A needle half in half out would do that. It COULD be a histamine realease but tht comes with red, itchyness. Hives basically. So I think you got your answer.

What gauge neelde you use? If your using a big gauge or a ling tip on a small or even regular sized vein this is VERY common.

 

[geraggh34]

No offense man but everyone here has given you there opinion. If you disagree with it, hey whatever. Let's look at the facts

It swelled
It was immediate
You "registered"

A needle half in half out would do that. It COULD be a histamine realease but tht comes with red, itchyness. Hives basically. So I think you got your answer.

What gauge neelde you use? If your using a big gauge or a ling tip on a small or even regular sized vein this is VERY common.

The only things i disagreed with was the statements people would say and questions that were asked that were already answered in my earlier posts lol. Why I said this thread was useless the fourth post. I never dIsagreed I just was implying other possible causes and was just asking. 29 gauge and yeah I 'registered', Lol facetious much? If people can't read I have to repeat myself

Edit: can a mod close this thread? Everything's fine, I don't believe I can right?

 

[muvolution]

Don't ever I'M bupe or any street drug for that matter.

Sugar is soluble in water, thus, a micron filter will not remove the pharmaceutical flavoring from the subs.

Closed.