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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

IV Meth Possible Artery/Nerve hit or blown vein?

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Im pretty familiar with everything to do with shooting up and precautions and safety and what not. Shot everything under the sun.

Anyways, earlier I shot up meth in one of the main veins on my right arm right in the crook of it. I didn't feel any pain but only getting through 10cc of my shot I felt an odd tingling sensation hit my right hand immidiately. No pain but it freaked me out enough I pulled the needle out. Next think I know my right hands entire hand goes a bit numb but my right thumb and pointer finger and the right side of my palm go number than I've ever felt. It stayed numb for a good 15/20min before it started to go back to normal.

I didn't notice any swelling and no pain. Not for the last 2 hours (5 or so hours after the original shot) my right hand is oddly cold as if the circulation is cut off and it feels sorta numb. Also when I have my arm bend fully I don't feel anything but when I extent my arm out, I feel pain in the injection site and it sorta feels like my skin is going taught there.

Any ideas? I originally thought I hot a vein or nerve somehow but I felt no pain and everything ive read I would have had to have felt a bunch of pain. Then I started looking into ruptured or collapsed vein but my symptoms cause of no pain and my hand feeling so cold has me unsure of what it is.
My hand never swelled up or anything.
 
My gut reaction when you mentioned your thumb and index finger was an artery shot.

But then again if it were an artery shot IME it shod have hurt like a mother fucker at just a few units

Tho I have no experience with artery shots that far up the arm..
 
Thanks for the responses guys.

Just an update; my hand feels normal and the injection site has a very small bump that hurts when I touch it and when I extend my arm it still hurts a decent bit but otherwise things aren't looking too bad and nothing that I believe calls for concern.
 
RISKING INJECTION ACCIDENTALLY INTRA-ARTERIALLY MAY CAUSE AMPUTATION OF THE INVOLVED EXTREMITY AND EVEN IF NOT IS ALTOGETHER VERY UNHEALTHY! Even if you just "have a feeling that you might be injecting intra-arterially, you need to withdraw the syringe immediately, and since it is likely to be blood-mixed, finish the injection as an IM or SC (non-IV) injection provided the needle has not been contaminated. Your description describes one of two ways one would suspect intra-arterial injection.
A. Tingling, pain, or sensations distal to the injection site (farther away from the heart than the place where the needle is going in, e.g. if you use the antecubital space (inside your elbow), distal would mean your forearm or hand.
B. Sudden influx of bright red blood entering your syringe without you drawing up on the plunger. This is the much redder intra-arterial, oxygenated blood, which is under its own pressure (your blood pressure!) and can thus force its way into your syringe on its own. IF THIS HAPPENS WITHDRAW THE SYRINGE THE MOMENT IT STARTS. Once again, finish injecting by doing so IM or SC, but all the blood in the syringe ruins a reattempt at an IV administration.

If you ignore this advice there is some 30-60% chance that within a few hours you will be in the OR having your extremity amputated surgically!!
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RISKING INJECTION ACCIDENTALLY INTRA-ARTERIALLY MAY CAUSE AMPUTATION OF THE INVOLVED EXTREMITY AND EVEN IF NOT IS ALTOGETHER VERY UNHEALTHY! Even if you just "have a feeling that you might be injecting intra-arterially, you need to withdraw the syringe immediately, and since it is likely to be blood-mixed, finish the injection as an IM or SC (non-IV) injection provided the needle has not been contaminated. Your description describes one of two ways one would suspect intra-arterial injection.
A. Tingling, pain, or sensations distal to the injection site (farther away from the heart than the place where the needle is going in, e.g. if you use the antecubital space (inside your elbow), distal would mean your forearm or hand.
B. Sudden influx of bright red blood entering your syringe without you drawing up on the plunger. This is the much redder intra-arterial, oxygenated blood, which is under its own pressure (your blood pressure!) and can thus force its way into your syringe on its own. IF THIS HAPPENS WITHDRAW THE SYRINGE THE MOMENT IT STARTS. Once again, finish injecting by doing so IM or SC, but all the blood in the syringe ruins a reattempt at an IV administration.

If you ignore this advice there is some 30-60% chance that within a few hours you will be in the OR having your extremity amputated surgically!!
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I am curious what your experience in all this stuff is. I took an arterial shot once by accident. I thought I was just through a nerve or something. Took the whole thing. (That was early on so probably 30-40 units.) My girlfriend who has been using IV for over a decade has taken several recently when that is all she can hit. I try to encourage her not to do it. I hate watching her do it. But I am in no position to tell her how to use our drugs.
She recently did an arterial shot in her right hand. Near the index finger and thumb, a site she's hit before but not really recently. Two or three days later and her hand is swollen, appearing similar to dermatitis, or a bad spider bite that I got last year. Her hand is roughly 2 times it's normal size. I've cleaned her skin thoroughly and tried so drawing salve and bandage for a few hours but aside from that what can I do to help her. Like I am sure many on here are, she is extremely adverse to going to the doctor or er. I also already know what the hospital will do and aside from the round of antibiotics it's a waste of time and a good 6 hours of being harshly judged and treated poorly. Plus a shot of antibiotic in the biggest syringe I've ever seen and a ridiculous qty(2ml) of honey thick antibiotic that burns like a fucking miss. I've never seen this reaction and I need to make sure I am applying appropriate first aid. Thanks in advance. We know the situation is fucked up. Just looking for help, not judgement.
 
RISKING INJECTION ACCIDENTALLY INTRA-ARTERIALLY MAY CAUSE AMPUTATION OF THE INVOLVED EXTREMITY AND EVEN IF NOT IS ALTOGETHER VERY UNHEALTHY! Even if you just "have a feeling that you might be injecting intra-arterially, you need to withdraw the syringe immediately, and since it is likely to be blood-mixed, finish the injection as an IM or SC (non-IV) injection provided the needle has not been contaminated. Your description describes one of two ways one would suspect intra-arterial injection.
A. Tingling, pain, or sensations distal to the injection site (farther away from the heart than the place where the needle is going in, e.g. if you use the antecubital space (inside your elbow), distal would mean your forearm or hand.
B. Sudden influx of bright red blood entering your syringe without you drawing up on the plunger. This is the much redder intra-arterial, oxygenated blood, which is under its own pressure (your blood pressure!) and can thus force its way into your syringe on its own. IF THIS HAPPENS WITHDRAW THE SYRINGE THE MOMENT IT STARTS. Once again, finish injecting by doing so IM or SC, but all the blood in the syringe ruins a reattempt at an IV administration.

If you ignore this advice there is some 30-60% chance that within a few hours you will be in the OR having your extremity amputated surgically!!
&&
Btw. I am not questioning your credentials. Just asking about what they are and how you gained this knowledge as that was all new to me and I like to learn new things.. sorry if I came off shitty 🙂
 
I recommend that everyone who is unsure about a bad injection seek medical attention. I know that is a lame answer and likely not the one you want to hear. There is just too much at stake and too much that can go wrong for a person not to go get checked out. People end up trading their arms and legs for their pride way too often. Go get checked out, let the hospital staff judge you, poke you and prod you and then come home with the peace of mind that you're safe.

I know a lot of recreational drug usage carries with it an element of danger. I just want to stress that injection can and does end in serious repercussions for people every day. I have known people both in my personal life and through BL that have suffered terribly from injection issues that could have been easily resolved by visiting the hospital. It's just not remotely worth the risk.
 
also already know what the hospital will do and aside from the round of antibiotics it's a waste of time and a good 6 hours of being harshly judged and treated poorly.
I am trying to find the correct primary care Dr, does anyone have any experience with them or are they mostly all going to treat you the same as a hospital would?

Also was the arterial shot between index and thumb that very rounded tube vein that runs along the wrist watch area?
 
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