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Israel is under attack

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TripSitterNZ said:
massive attacks are being planned by iran. America sending naval assets and troops to support israel.

Fuck the attollayhs in iran. Israel should drop a bomb on the supremre leader of iran
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Cheshire_Kat said:
Are you talking nuclear?
If that happens think of all the treaties and alliances that would kick in.
The world definitely doesn't need anything like that.

America needs to stop sending support and getting involved with other countries' affairs.
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Cheshire_Kat said:
Are you talking nuclear?
If that happens think of all the treaties and alliances that would kick in.
The world definitely doesn't need anything like that.

America needs to stop sending support and getting involved with other countries' affairs.
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its the right time for a massive war. It times to deliver a death blow to iran and the axis of evil of russia & china. While the west is still ahead in millitary tech.

Destory the autocractic regimes and steal all their fucking resources
 
TripSitterNZ said:
its the right time for a massive war. It times to deliver a death blow to iran and the axis of evil of russia & china. While the west is still ahead in millitary tech.

Destory the autocractic regimes and steal all their fucking resources
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The combined arsenal of both sides is enough to wipe out civilization from our planet several times over. There might be some survivors but the living would probably envy the dead.
What makes you think this is a good idea?
 
TripSitterNZ said:
its the right time for a massive war. It times to deliver a death blow to iran and the axis of evil of russia & china. While the west is still ahead in millitary tech.

Destory the autocractic regimes and steal all their fucking resources
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That's like an 800 year plan
 
TripSitterNZ said:
its the right time for a massive war. It times to deliver a death blow to iran and the axis of evil of russia & china. While the west is still ahead in millitary tech.

Destory the autocractic regimes and steal all their fucking resources
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We probably shouldn't be rooting for nuclear war and pillaging other countries for resources. That isn't nice, let's try moving past colonialism please.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
We probably shouldn't be rooting for nuclear war and pillaging other countries for resources. That isn't nice, let's try moving past colonialism please.
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I agree. We also shouldn't be supporting Hamas terrorism and rape either though.

Maybe meet somewhere in the middle?
 
daturetard said:
Well, to not kid ourselves, Britain gave them that land.
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Abraham lived long before Britain was even a thing, if it wasn't common knowledge then why did Richard the Lionheart travel all the way to the Holy Land to fight in the Crusades?. Britain returned them to the land that was historically theirs. Britain had possessions all over the world and could have sent them anywhere, but chose their historic home . It wasn't a random choice .
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
Abraham lived long before Britain was even a thing, if it wasn't common knowledge then why did Richard the Lionheart travel all the way to the Holy Land to fight in the Crusades?. Britain returned them to the land that was historically theirs. Britain had possessions all over the world and could have sent them anywhere, but chose their historic home . It wasn't a random choice .
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Separation of church and state. America's freedom from religion is the oxygen that allows the individual freedom of religion.
 
The Palestinians and the Jewish people have the same ancestry where some simply converted from Judaism to Islam which is why there are some Arab Jews in the region, the Palestinians have just as much right to be there as the Jews yet Israel is still taking their land
 
brokedownpalace10 said:
Separation of church and state. America's freedom from religion is the oxygen that allows one the freedom to practice their religion.
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This story is secular history. Even the Romans recognized the presence of Israel over 2000 years ago and they were Pagan. Abraham was a historic figure as well as a religious figure. All Jewish people are his descendants, both secularly and religiously.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
The Palestinians and the Jewish people have the same ancestry where some simply converted from Judaism to Islam which is why there are some Arab Jews in the region, the Palestinians have just as much right to be there as the Jews yet Israel is still taking their land
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This is a fight between Palestine and Israel. According to both Jewish and Islamic tradition it was started by two brothers 5000 years ago over a family inheritance. The US and the rest off the world should not be involved. I've said this countless times. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
 
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Cheshire_Kat said:
This is a fight between Palestine and Israel. According to both Jewish and Islamic tradition it was started by two brothers 5000 years ago over a family inheritance. The US and the rest off the world should not be involved. I've said this countless times. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
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Hmmm. So, you recognize (unsurprisingly) that Abraham is a key figure in Islam as well. If I get time later today I'll look up that tradition. Give me some key words if you wanna.

For now though, and since I do believe in separation church and state, for the sake of argument. If God gave the land to Abraham, wouldn't they both have a "right" to it.

Anyway, I agree we should stay out of it.
 
brokedownpalace10 said:
Hmmm. So, you recognize (unsurprisingly) that Abraham is a key figure in Islam as well. If I get time later today I'll look up that tradition. Give me some key words if you wanna.

For now though, and since I do believe in separation church and state, for the sake of argument. If God gave the land to Abraham, wouldn't they both have a "right" to it.

Anyway, I agree we should stay out of it.
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I have studied the Bible, Torah and Quran in depth.

The two brothers involved were the grandchildren of Abraham and the sons of Isaac. There was disagreement between the two brothers about the inheritance, and one brother deceived Isaac in order to get the inheritance. One brother begat the house of Israel, the other of Islam (but he had to wander in the desert and start without possessions, cattle, land etc.)
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
Abraham lived long before Britain was even a thing, if it wasn't common knowledge then why did Richard the Lionheart travel all the way to the Holy Land to fight in the Crusades?. Britain returned them to the land that was historically theirs. Britain had possessions all over the world and could have sent them anywhere, but chose their historic home .
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Ah, yes, so Britain should come to America again, kill/remove every European that identifies as 'American' and return that land to the native people. Because another genocide makes the first one right. Crazy how white people hate that people steal land, unless it's them stealing the land.
Edit: also this argument is based on untrue religious text. (Not to offend anybody, but no, your sacred text is not inherently correct.)
 
daturetard said:
Ah, yes, so Britain should come to America again, kill/remove every European that identifies as 'American' and return that land to the native people. Because another genocide makes the first one right. Crazy how white people hate that people steal land, unless it's them stealing the land.
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As a Native American I have no say so in that, but I certainly would benefit. You really like to argue just for the sake of it, don't you?
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
As a Native American I have no say so in that, but I certainly would benefit. You really like to argue just for the sake of it, don't you?
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I have native in me too. What I described would be the exact same thing as what Britain did in Isreal, on a larger scale, in a different place. It's a valid argument.
 
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