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Buzz Lightbeer said:
This is the first definition I found on Google: "the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another."
So I think the question is just off, seems not to be about ethnicities per se, but ethnicities in an area, so Arabs in Palestine in this case.
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Israel is:

Jewish 74%, Arab 21%, other 5%

Why would they be purposely targeting Arabs in Gaza when they have so many in their own country (And government)?

If they aren't targeting them based on their ethnicity, you can't call it ethnic cleansing. It's just an attempt from some to make it into a race thing, white/west/Jews vs brown/Mideast/Arabs ... pitting identity groups against each other is always the underlying calculus of all their political stances.
 
Mjäll said:
Nothing has been figured out. People are still taking sides in this middle east bullshit.

Maybe one or two of them are Israeli or Palestinian but most are silly westerners who cannot recognize and accomodate for actual seriousness and therefore treat this conflict like a football game instead of a real tragedy and expression of mutual collective immaturity.
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Thats's your own imagination.
 
mal3volent said:
Why would they be purposely targeting Arabs in Gaza when they have so many in their own country (And government)?
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fascist actors do attack against massive groups of people in their own borders all the time. It is amazing how much bullshit people can internalize over time, yes. It is caused by manipulation repeated long enough.

www.theguardian.com

New wave of violence sweeps West Bank as Israel launches series of raids

Palestinian officials say at least 12 people killed since Wednesday and Tulkarem refugee camp under ‘siege’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Mjäll said:
Nothing has been figured out. People are still taking sides in this middle east bullshit.

Maybe one or two of them are Israeli or Palestinian but most are silly westerners who cannot recognize and accomodate for actual seriousness and therefore treat this conflict like a football game instead of a real tragedy and expression of mutual collective immaturity.
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This is a discussion forum. Not sure why you feel the need to continuously post about how everyone is stupid for "taking sides" but please either stop that or just contribute to the conversation.
 
swilow said:
This is a discussion forum. Not sure why you feel the need to continuously post about how everyone is stupid for "taking sides" but please either stop that or just contribute to the conversation.
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I am contributing lol wtf dude

Are people now seriously saying you have to pick sides in this crap or otherwise you're not "contributing"? As if truth couldn't reside in not taking sides...

That's just dumb. Really dumb.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
fascist actors do attack against massive groups of people in their own borders all the time. It is amazing how much bullshit people can internalize over time, yes. It is caused by manipulation repeated long enough.

www.theguardian.com

New wave of violence sweeps West Bank as Israel launches series of raids

Palestinian officials say at least 12 people killed since Wednesday and Tulkarem refugee camp under ‘siege’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Is that not shifting the goalposts a bit though? Because the ethnic cleansing most are alleging is considered to be in Gaza, not the West Bank. And the Arabs Malevolent is referring to are those Arabs who live within Israel's borders and are fully realised citizens of Israel. Who, notably, aren't getting ethnically cleansed.

Fwiw, I would actually say Israel's actions in the West Bank are less defensible than their actions in Gaza. In the West Bank, they are an occupying force with all the baggage that attends that. The settlements there are an utter blight on Israel.
 
Funny how you partisans gang up on me by liking each other's posts. Blatantly shows you're in it for the fight and hate more on the guy who wants to lay down the fight than you do on your actual opponent.

Is that a joke?
 
swilow said:
You're talking about how stupid everyone is for acting like this is a "football match". You've done it for pages. That's not contributing, that's you acting superior to everyone who just wants a discussion.
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Yeah like you're not all acting superior all the time

Hahahahaha

This is so sad and dumb
 
They're muslims

They didn't invent political parties, or guns. They're just trying to use them. For their barbaric jihad bullshit.
 
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swilow said:
seems like antisemitism to me.
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o jfc, what a slimy and cowardly (and lazy) thing to say... why should we repeat our arguments if you're simply going to lie and make nasty and baseless (and weak minded) SHIT comments like this?
 
nepalnt21 said:
o jfc, what a slimy and cowardly (and lazy) thing to say... why should we repeat our arguments if you're simply going to lie and make nasty and baseless (and weak minded) SHIT comments like this?
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Any different to being called pro genocide? Half your responses are you just shouting the social media slogans of ethnic cleansing at people and fishing for likes so not especially convinced you're the bastion of integrity you imagine.

Tell me why Israel are held to higher standards than every other nation at war, including the US, UK, Sudan, Syria, Palestine. You haven't spent a lot of time calling Russia genocidal, over 10 million Ukrainians have fled. What is different about Israel that makes people so angry? Why are people more angry about Israel than Hamas?

Fwiw, I don't think you're an antisemite. I think you're parroting talking points of people who are.
 
I absolutely despise the manner US does warfare and probably UK too, although I don't have good cover about it. Rest I know shit about but generally all organizations, which includes states too, eventually turn to evil shit.

Yes, I love bashing our shitty civilizations. Yes, I do have too much free time and alcohol to not participate into this.

e: still getting less drunk every second. I read palestine as pakistan first. I don't care to explain my take on that further tho, just so you know that is the reason why my first paragraph possibly does not make sense.
 
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mal3volent said:
If they aren't targeting them based on their ethnicity, you can't call it ethnic cleansing.
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you do you, just say things with no basis in reality

swilow said:
being called pro genocide
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when did i do that?

and wataboutism doesn't explain it. that's a fallacy.


swilow said:
parroting talking points of people who are.
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jews are LEADING many of the protests against israel.

i make my own mind up, and i certainly don't listen to or read antisemites.
 
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