nepalnt21
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why would it? that makes NO sense
just to remind you of the perspective:
WAR CRIMES!
hope that helps
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WAR CRIMES!
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swilow
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No, I absolutely agree that it's a reaction to the formation of Israel. A bad, destructive, evil, religiously motivated, fascistic, barbaric, and most of all, absolutely futile reaction. Israel are not going to pack up and leave because of brutality meted out to her citizens. They are always going to destroy those who perpetrate those acts because they've seen the world where they don't fight back and it almost ended them. That is the thing your incessant Hamas apologism never seems to grasp.
nepalnt21
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it's hyperbole, we can keep really close tabs this day and age... i think it's something like 1200 palestinian kids so far.
not sure what would be happening without hamas, but israel (if netanyahu was still their p.m.) would still be treating palestinians like shit.
i can denounce hamas' actions... why do you keep defending israel's?
pharmakos
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I don't remember seeing images comparable to the amount of destruction that is happening to Palestine. This is a true fact -- the Israelis have already, since October 7th, launched more bombs at Palestine than America did in Afghanistan in any given YEAR of the Afghani conflict.
pharmakos
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And the Gaza Strip is only roughly the size of Detroit!
pharmakos
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This was six days ago, six days after the beginning of the conflict on Oct. 7
www.wsj.com
So we can assume that in the six days since, they've most likely surpassed this figure:
www.theguardian.com
Afghanistan has an area of 252,701 sq mi. / 862,561 km²
Gaza has an area of 141 sq. mi / 365 km².
Edit -- another citation:
Israeli Air Force Says It Has Dropped 6,000 Bombs on Gaza
The Israeli Air Force said it has dropped about 6,000 bombs targeted at Hamas in Gaza since the war began, adding that it will continue the campaign as long as necessary. The airstrikes killed hundreds of Hamas militants and damaged the
So we can assume that in the six days since, they've most likely surpassed this figure:
US dropped record number of bombs on Afghanistan last year
Warplanes dropped 7,423 bombs and other munitions, the most since Pentagon began keeping track in 2006
Afghanistan has an area of 252,701 sq mi. / 862,561 km²
Gaza has an area of 141 sq. mi / 365 km².
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swilow
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You're certain about one, thung uncertain about another. These differing views perfectly align with your preconceptions.
Look, I don't think it would be all kumbaya if Hamas were wiped out, because you'd still have radical Islam and its perennial threat to western values and the problems which the creation of the state of Israel kicked off, but we can unequivocally state that we would not be ceasing the current conflict without Hamas.
Obviously because I think they have the moral high ground here for almost countless reasons. I agree that the formation of Israel was done badly, as many things have been done in the past. With modern values, it probably wouldn't have happened in that way. But unless you think Native Americans or indigenous Australians or any other original inhabitant of any territory should be free to massacre the descendants of colonial interlopers, you shouldn't really be so supportive of the group that is currently doing that. To me, it's pretty clear that a response to terrorism is necessary and that terrorists using civilian areas as a base of operations are the ones putting those civilians at risk.
If you really denounced Hamas, you wouldn't hold half the passionate views you seem to hold. You'd see that they are responsible for the current conflict. But it truly seems that you think there are situations where rape, torture, and murder of civilians are acceptable. That can't be so, right?
mal3volent
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i mean... it doesn't take a huge leap when their p.m. is sending out dehumanizing garbage like this:
and their defense minister calls them "human animals"... this is genocidal speech in a war of ethnic cleansing.
you know he's referring to the terrorists.
and in my opinion they aren't even animals, they're much beneath animals.
you're grasping at straws
Palestinians are still being massacred that's why we don't understand your defense of Israel. There have been over 40x more Palestinian civilian deaths compared to Israel. Israel is the country slowly pushing the Palestinians out of their ancestral homes and placing laws to make sure they can't come back. These things are actively happening right now and Hamas as an organization is a defensive reaction to everything I just listed
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mal3volent
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that's a nice factoid but what does the number of "bomb" launches mean when "bombs" can be of varying different strengths and used for different purposes in conjunction with other strategies?
mal3volent
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People like you are the reason for waterboarding at Guantanamo, you should be ashamedawww I dehumanized the terrorists.... poor things
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Thank you for once again showing where your priorities lie and what your values are.
Not torturing people? Viewing them as humans? Oh the horror
mal3volent
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When did I say anything about torture? Oh yeah I didn't.
Yet you support Israel who does torture prisoners who have not been convicted, I've posted numerous articles that outline this. Your rhetoric is exactly the same as Israel's when they excuse such behavior
"A number of legal experts have argued the actions may also amount to crimes against humanity and genocide, as defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention."
theintercept.com
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"A number of legal experts have argued the actions may also amount to crimes against humanity and genocide, as defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention."
Going All-In for Israel May Make Biden Complicit in Genocide
Human rights lawyers warned Biden that his unconditional support for the war on Gaza may implicate the U.S. in Israel’s crimes.
theintercept.com
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mal3volent
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Yet you support Israel who does torture prisoners who have not been convicted, I've posted numerous articles that outline this. Your rhetoric is exactly the same as Israel's when they excuse such behavior
"A number of legal experts have argued the actions may also amount to crimes against humanity and genocide, as defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention."
Going All-In for Israel May Make Biden Complicit in Genocide
Human rights lawyers warned Biden that his unconditional support for the war on Gaza may implicate the U.S. in Israel’s crimes.12ft |
Does your precious Hamas/PIJ give their prisoners cookies and tuck them in at night?
You know, the ones who burn infants and rape women?
Sorry I dehumanized them. Hope I didn't give you PTSD.
nepalnt21
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maybe, and he would be righteous if they weren't pulling the ole collective punishment (another one of those pesky geneva convention conventions).
it's still dehumanizing palestinians... he might have made the same remarks after a vague reference to hamas, but the tweet stood alone. and obviously he knew that, he knew it was quite easy to link it to the actual dying children or why would he delete it after the hospital got bombed? (also, does that mean he thought it was possible that it was his own ppl? speculation, obviously... but unless they come out with a response...)
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