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swilow said:
No one is killing off the Palestinians. That's just ridiculous hyperbole. I know you will now point to Israel current attacks as if Israel are not doing this in response to Hamas. But Israel do not have a policy of genocide to Palestinians and have made continual gestures towards a two state solution, all of which are routinely rejected by Hamas who, unlike basically every other Arab nation and unlike other Palestinian factions like Fatah, believe Israel should cease to exist.

The fact is, Israel are never going to leave these land and once again throw themselves on the mercy of a world that ignored the Holocaust of 6 million. That is the reality, like it or not. Reasonable Palestinians accept this and would have peace.

Hamas want to see the genocide of the Jews, and you're on their side. They're not freedom fighters or noble warriors, they are fanatical young men who butchered and raped innocent people. How can you support that? Is it because you think the Jews deserve it? Really?
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Unless you think the United Nations made these numbers up, I'm not sure how you can say no one is killing Palestinians.
 
swilow said:
No one is killing off the Palestinians. That's just ridiculous hyperbole. I know you will now point to Israel current attacks as if Israel are not doing this in response to Hamas. But Israel do not have a policy of genocide to Palestinians and have made continual gestures towards a two state solution, all of which are routinely rejected by Hamas who, unlike basically every other Arab nation and unlike other Palestinian factions like Fatah, believe Israel should cease to exist.

The fact is, Israel are never going to leave these land and once again throw themselves on the mercy of a world that ignored the Holocaust of 6 million. That is the reality, like it or not. Reasonable Palestinians accept this and would have peace.

Hamas want to see the genocide of the Jews, and you're on their side. They're not freedom fighters or noble warriors, they are fanatical young men who butchered and raped innocent people. How can you support that? Is it because you think the Jews deserve it? Really?
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I am not a fan of Hamas the Palestian group that i would supprt are the PFLP who supported the 1 state solution which i agree with. However since Hamas are now the major armed group in Palestine i can understand why some would maybe support them.

What Israel is doing is basically genocide in my opinion
 
apnews.com

4 Palestinians killed by Israeli fire in fresh West Bank violence. Clashes erupt in flashpoint town

Palestinian health officials say four Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire in the northern West Bank.
apnews.com apnews.com

This one ^ happened two days before the Palestinian attacks on Israel last week


Israel accused of torturing Palestinian suspects in bombing that killed teen | The Times of Israel

www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com

www.reuters.com

Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

www.amnesty.org

Pattern of discriminatory Israeli police violations against Palestinians

Police targeted Palestinians with mass arrests, used unlawful force against peaceful protesters, and subjected detainees to torture
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org

www.aljazeera.com

Israelis kill four Palestinians in occupied West Bank confrontations

Two Palestinians killed in Huwara, south of Nablus, hours after two others were killed near Shufa.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com


Israelis are DEFINITELY killing Palestinians. The violence goes both ways, but anyone trying to paint the Israelis as totally innocent is dead wrong
 
Two years ago:

www.theguardian.com

Israel-Gaza conflict: 200 Palestinians killed in a week, say officials

Benjamin Netanyahu signals Israel’s bombardment will continue as Joe Biden issues statement supporting ceasefire
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Two hundred Palestinians, including 59 children, have been killed during a week of attacks in Gaza, health officials in the territory have said, as Benjamin Netanyahu signalled Israel’s bombardment would rage on despite mounting global pressure to stop the bloodshed.
 
AlsoTapered said:
I'm still amazed at how the US hasn't got over religion yet. I live in the UK - noted for being the least religious nation on earth.

We don't mock or attack people of faith - we consider it more of a mental health issue.
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Religion used to work against government tyranny. The founding fathers weren't religious but knew if our rights were granted by a higher power, the government can't revoke them as easily. In America I see very few religious people who aren't retired.
 
Mjäll said:
I feel like i don't even want to take sides against taking sides so i'm just gonna pretend we're all on board and no-one is dumb enough to take sides on this!

🤘🥳

Just kidding
But really
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Haha, I love this. I was assuming the same until I saw a tonne of youtube comments on one or two videos where people were appalled that everyone else was supporting "terrorism". I just believed and still do that they were a tonne of bots.
 
Gaza civilians afraid to leave home after bombing of ‘safe routes’ - The Guardian
Shocking moment convoy of cars fleeing Gaza Strip is rocked by explosion on 'safe' route out of the north - DailyMail
A convoy of vehicles carrying fleeing civilians in Gaza that was hit by a deadly airstrike was travelling on one of the two roads identified by the Israeli army as “safe routes” to the southern half of the strip, according to analysis.
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Been trying to get to the bottom of this one, and it looks like it could actually be Hamas targeting fleeing civilians and not an airstrike. There's a video of the explosion and there's no incoming missile sound, and the explosion itself does not look like military grade high-explosive (primarily a large fireball / low-energy).

The Palestinian Health Ministry has claimed it to be an airstrike.
 
Doctor Steve Brule said:
Religion used to work against government tyranny. The founding fathers weren't religious but knew if our rights were granted by a higher power, the government can't revoke them as easily. In America I see very few religious people who aren't retired.
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His expectations are unrealistic. Because he finds religion inconvenient, his expectations are that it will simply go away. The rest of his policies are similar.
 
gordonliddy said:
His expectations are unrealistic. Because he finds religion inconvenient, his expectations are that it will simply go away. The rest of his policies are similar.
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Usually when people use male pronouns and it isn't clear who they're referencing they're talking about Jesus. I feel like that is not the case here
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Because an area with restricted movement in and out, a giant fence around it, constant patrols of Israeli police and IDF, and restricted food and water supply definitely doesn't sound like a prison
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The restricted supplies started in response to the events last week that killed 2000. Fences and patrols I think probably make sense when there are individuals actively planning terrorist activities no?

As Swilow said, "open air prison" is a meme/talking point.
 
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