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Israel is under attack

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mal3volent said:
Don't have a pc. But anyways, the article I was able to read is about an incident where a building was damaged with no deaths. Written by a group that has a clear political stance demonstrated within the same article.

If it's true the IDF had that many conflicting explanations of what happened, I say yeah, that's not a good look. But I also understand that shit happens sometimes. No one died. Just feels like a politically motivated article written to farm clout for their organization and further the narrative they're pushing.

I'm not here trying to say the fucking IDF is some kind of benevolent force who never makes mistakes. I just don't think they're murderous thugs like you guys do. I support Israel because the opposite of supporting Israel means the annihilation of the only thing resembling a progressive democracy in that region.
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The point is that this is actually a véry debatable topic, and "extraordinary lengths" is a pretty bold remark.

Everything in the wiki reinforces that. All sections are great. And there are many more instances of them firing on so called safe or corridor zones
 
Madness said:
If we couldn't use Wikipedia for sources in 2006, we surely can't now. They even spam ads for donations on the front page. Wikipedia has never been known as credible.
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nah man, times have changed... they are tooooootally credible these days!!




 
I'm going to make my own web browser called "Woof" that pulls pieces of pieces of pieces of articles and combines them with my own personal database of opinions, to provide extremely biased information.

Basically like the C traunches of credit default swaps - it will be so hard to trace what's what that it actually looks credible
 
Madness said:
Jesus so they basically just cheery picked off one article
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well not one article, more so many articles from one site.

Just another note FTR: Al Jazeera was created by the same government who currently protect the leaders of Hamas. Who have given nearly $2 billion to Hamas. You know, just a couple small facts for added context.
 
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Doesn't refute the point.
They're often also just quoting others.

But go on, everyone's lying, all Hamas operatives...

I post of FT, get accused of just reading headlines, then wiki which is not ok. Come on. Plenty of stuff in there backing up my point.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Doesn't refute the point.
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sorry, but i think it does
if I want to read an Al Jazeera article I'll just go directly to the source
but don't link a Wikipedia as if it's some kind of compendium of unbiased fact based knowledge when like 75% of the references are from the mouthpiece of the Qatari government who literally funds Hamas. :rofl:
 
You can just read the wiki article and who the sources are from, and as I said they're often quoting others, Red Cross, UN, other NGO's.

Tons of other sources there too, but you know that. Anyone who takes 10 minutes to read & maybe checks some of the sources will just know that Israel is not going to extreme lengths to warn and protect civilians. And acting like they are, while refusing to take in any information that's suggesting Israel is not is just sad... And then I'm the cheerleader...

The few reading this can make up their own minds, this particular one was beneath your level.
 
Soso78 said:
It’s like you’re brainwashed.
They have been doing it and are still doing it.
Electric and water first now aid
They even sinking the fishing boats.
If u genuinely believe that Israel means no harm to Palestinians ur delusional
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Why does that upset you more then hamas using women and kids as human shields?
Using civilian sites to fire rockets off knowing full well any military would fire back at said site.
There's wrong on both sides but at least 1 side values life.
You're arguing for people who don't think your life has value
 
mal3volent said:
here is a link to the post,
Post in thread 'Israel is under attack'
https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/israel-is-under-attack.935222/post-16004318

You made a few comments after it that indicated you hadn't read it. I doubt you will this time either.
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Ur right I wont
Jen X said:
Why does that upset you more then hamas using women and kids as human shields?
Using civilian sites to fire rockets off knowing full well any military would fire back at said site.
There's wrong on both sides but at least 1 side values life.
You're arguing for people who don't think your life has value
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what makes u think it upsets me more?
Just expect that shit from a terrorist organisation. Not so good when a country does it.
Do u think by me saying killing inoccent civilians and children is bad that I’m arguing for or defending Hamas?
 
Soso78 said:
Just expect that shit from a terrorist organisation
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Who are the elected leaders of the Gaza strip, the population of which largely support what they did and do.

It's amazing how little people actually expect from the Palestinians, and do expect from Israel, while claiming the latter are somehow worse than the former. Imagine the world railing against Hamas for not providing warning for the thousands of rocket attacks they conduct against civilian Israel. No one does this. Why? It's almost as if even the most politically deranged simply know that moral requirements just aren't really a thing for Hamas in the way they are for the big bad evil Israelis.
 
swilow said:
It's amazing how little people actually expect from the Palestinians, and do expect from Israel, while claiming the latter are somehow worse than the former. Imagine the world railing against Hamas for not providing warning for the thousands of rocket attacks they conduct against civilian Israel. No one does this.
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The whole western world considers Hamas a terrorist organization.
Israel is to many of the same countries an ally, of course they are held to a higher standard.

Of course Israel has to warn civilians, if they throw bombs knowingly I do think that's considered a war crime.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
People say US is complicit in genocide due to their endorsement.

It may may be "useless", but it sure has ramifications.

Turkey's endorsement will lead to even more hatred between Muslims and Jews.
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Turkey has always openly supported all 32 of the Palestinian terrorist organisations since AKP- the ruling party- came to power. It is afterall an Islamo-fascist party. Almost instsntly shredded the longstanding ties between Turkey & Israel. It is ironic that they support terrorist organisations given Turkey's own issued with terrorism, the PKP (radical Kurdish Seperatist movement), Communist terrorism, but most of all, its issues with IS and other Syrian Islamo-fascist groups like Jabhat al Nursa (the al Qadah franchisee in Syria).

It reminds me of HAMAS' hypocrisy in dealing with Salafists.
 
psychopath jared kushner OPENLY called for ethnic cleansing. in plain english, completely undeniable.

www.haaretz.com

Jared Kushner: Gaza seaside land 'very valuable,' Israel must 'move people out, clean up'

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com

pretty sick. but to be expected from such a flaccid intellect.

swilow said:
the population of which largely support what they did and do.
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can you please cite where you learned this from? were they able to call a statistically significant number of gazans (half of whom are children) while israel was bombing?
 
Madness said:
I'm going to make my own web browser called "Woof" that pulls pieces of pieces of pieces of articles and combines them with my own personal database of opinions, to provide extremely biased information.

Basically like the C traunches of credit default swaps - it will be so hard to trace what's what that it actually looks credible
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Buzz Lightbeer said:
The whole western world considers Hamas a terrorist organization.
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It's not really a western opinion. They define themselves as a terrorist organization. It's in their founding doctrine.

"In its original 1988 charter, Hamas states that “There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad.”
[...] Hamas declares that international peace proposals and conferences are "but a waste of time, and vain endeavors.""

As I've said before, Hamas cares not for Palestinian civilians dying. They don't want a cease fire. They only want violence. They use their fellow Palestinians as human shields, steal their water, electricity, medical supplies...

They strap suicide bombs to children.

List of Palestinian suicide attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Hamas is the epitome of a terrorist organization.
 
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