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Misc Isn't there a drug that can help with anger or irritability?

Yes, I agree. We cannot expect to be held accountable for the actions of others. I don't blame anyone for not mentioning the risks of self-prescribing with Lamictal, just as I wouldn't want to be blamed for giving bad advice regarding diphenhydramine. But if we do have any pertinent info, we should try to divulge it, since this is, after all, a harm reduction forum. It is ultimately up the the individual to do their own research, but my feeling is that by including vital info in our posts, we reinforce the spirit of harm reduction.

I fully agree, and am very glad someone caught that issue on Lamictal. Upon reading the warning, that I failed to mention, simply because I forgot, also got defensive which might have come across in my post.

Also, when reading the OP, I held back in writing what I really wanted to write as a response, and instead tried to answer the OP's question the best I could taking into account what he was saying (about not wanting to mess with anti-d's etc) rather than giving what I would consider the best response I could irrespective of what the OP was asking for. I'm going to finish reading this thread and make another post.
 
Is there a drug that can help with pure and simple anger or constant irritability that's not caused by something more serious underlying it like psychosis or depression? .

What difference does it make? And who do you think is in the best position to be able to determine what kind of treatment a person with anger and constant irritibility needs? My guess (and I could be wrong, as I often am) is that at some point you have come across some professional as a patient. Another guess is that underlying causes, or the possibility of them, have also been mentioned. If not, the existance of them, or lack thereof, have probably been contemplated by you to one degree or another, or why mention it?
If you're pissed off easily and fly off the handle at the drop of the hat and find it difficult to keep your cool, is there a medication you can take to prevent this? In this day and age there must be something.

If your " pissed off easily and fly off the handle at the drop of the hat and find it difficult to keep your cool" you are almost certainly at some risk of causing unplesantness, to some degree, to either people you know or strangers. This obviously will put yourself at risk as well. If you asking about meds to controll it you are obviously concerned about the seriousness of your problem.

My question, or one of them is: WHAT THE FUCK DIFFERENCE DOES IT REALLY MAKE whether or not there is an undlerlying cause? And why in the hell would you ever assume there is NOT an 'underlying cause'? Do you think that anger and irritibility pixie dust is being sprinkled on you throughout the day every day, which would mean there is no 'internal' cause (I'm assuming that 'underlying' cause and 'internal' cause are the SAME, for all intents and purposes. Do we agree it's something that is happening IN you?

Do you want to 'fix it'? If so, how badly? Why put conditions on how this may or may not be fixed without first understanding from professionals in this area recommend? I can certainly understand people not wanting to have extreme forms of treatment like ECT or being locked in a psych ward against their will.

But people don't walk around constantly irritible and angry, fearing they may fly off the handle at the drop of a hat, with some minor provocation, or possibly no provocation at all. And there is ALWAYS going to be a reason, or reasons, for this. There is never going to be NO reason.

In this day and age there are shitloads of ways to deal with anger and there are shitloads of professionals who specialize in treating this type of thing. There are even teams of people who work in conjunction to treat this stuff.

You are aware you have a problem. This is good.
You are seeking help. This is good.

But I'm sensing that there is something more to the picture your not being forthright about. People don't say "I don't want anti-dpressants and I don't want ...bla bla...." for no reason. Maybe their reasons are great ones. Maybe they are (in MY opionon, SUCKY ones). At the end of the day it's you and your body and your problem. But with anger and irritibility it's pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to have it not spill over and have it be made other people's problems too. LIke family and friends. and strangers.

I think (and could be wrong, as I often am) you are resistant to learning or exploring the possible reasons for the anger/irritibility. Cool, no problem. But if this interferes with solving your problem...well that complicates things for you and your friends and family and everyone else (because of the way that anger and irritibility manifest). This is a problem that is much moreso of this nature than many other problems.

I have had fucking extreme anger issues in my past. I have had lifelong despression, which some will say is 'anger turned inwards'. It's also a very touchy (potentially) problem, with potentially very, very severe consequences.

I seriously think you need to be talking to people not on illicit drug harm reduction forums but more appropriate places about this issue of yours. I'm a libertarian so believe people should be able to do whatever the hell they want as long as they are not hurting others. So I don't mean to be on your ass telling you what to do but have first hand experience with 'anger' and 'irritibility' and have come close to dying many times because of this. I have also come close to killing others (through reckless behavior, which was connected to me NOT dealing with my anger appropriately- the shit will come out one way or another).

Mike Tyson was an angry guy. He had someone take him under his wing and channel his anger and he became a world champion and multi-millionaire. Figure that would be enough and he would be content and life would be good. But he bit someone's ear off and went off on some random dude over some little bs traffic accident or something. I happen to know the pyschiatrist who evaluated him following this and happen to know the medication he was put on. It was one of the one's you ruled out as not for you.

You need to figure out a way to trust someone enough to be honest with them about what's going on with you. I say this because I don't want you to wind up dead or wind up hurting some innocent person, or going way overboard on someone not completely innocent but not deserving of this ongoing issue you have and do not have control over. I don't want it to be someone here or someone's wife or kid, as I said, this shit comes out sideways and if your a walking irritibility bomb this is not a good thing.

Feel free to pm me (hell, feel free to pm me and tell me to fuck off if you want). But this is like your playing with fire, but actually much worse. Fire is playing with YOU. Your living your life and are contstantly surrounded by burning flames. YOur in situations where other people are calm and relaxed and your on edge, on edge enough to come to a drug forum and ask drug users and abusers for advice.

Ask some people who are trained to deal with people in your situation. If you find a drug that solves the problem, great. If there is an underlying cause and you never know it, who cares (if you don't), so long as you get the problem solved. But it seems to me like you want a solution and I'm pretty figgin sure your not in the best place to find it.

My guess is that the solution will be best one that encompasses more than simply taking one pill and that's it. There are dozens of possible solutions, and they are different for different people.

I simply suggest you widen your 'there must be a drug out there in this day and age to help' to "there must be a shit fuck ton of ways out there in this day and age to help". Good luck.
Peace,
Titus
 
Sorry to call you out bro, but I just realized your over in the steroid forum. Haven't exactly read all of your posts, but this is a KEY piece of info that should have been put out there. Not sure what your on at the moment, if anything. Also know of both the myth of steroid rage and also the significant impact steroids have on people's emotions.

I now resent the time I spent trying to give you comprehensive and supportive advice to your OP. What else is going on that has potential bearing on this issue that people being asked the question have been left in the dark about?

I also have transferrence when it comes to people talking about anger and irritibilitiy, and don't consider it to be taken lightly at all. I spend a fair ammt of my free time trying to offer people support and guidance based on my knowledge and experience gained over the years. And I take is seriously. People's lives are sometimes at risk here. Why not man up and take the time to follow up with detailed and thorough replies to those who have posted feedback for you in this thread?
 
^Good catch. I'mma lol if the OP is abusing Testosterone or steroids and is worried about anger and irritability 8)
 
^Good catch. I'mma lol if the OP is abusing Testosterone or steroids and is worried about anger and irritability 8)

I basically only frequent that forum and this one. When I realized he was posting over there too I ran a quick search of posts and I think the first one, or one where he started a thread was on Snythol and was contemplating using it and talking about how it got a bad rap from a certain well known bodybuilder whose biceps basically like exploded and shit. Now I don't know if you know about this 'steroid', if you want to call it that, but I'll tell you this:

I've injected in my body PGCL, which is a chemical that is given to farm animals and elephants and shit to INDUCE ABORTIONS. What it does for bodybuilders is essentially make their non existant uterus's contract over and over again while they 'abort' a bunch of water out their ass in order to loose weight quickly. Many, most, people are shocked to learn that I would use such a chemical. Your on the toilet for a few days and its unplesant to say the least, both the asshole burning and your man uterus contracting over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again...... (your intestines essentially).

And I would NEVER inject Synthol into my body.

So insofar as his mindset is concerned he is def no lightweight when it comes to steroids and similar substances and their use, that's for sure. When I read his OP here I had in my mind a somewhat inexperienced drug user with limited contact with the mental health system, if any, and a lot of fear around using drugs as treatment. I saw in my mind a scared and somehwat nieve OP seeking help. Now I'm responsible for drawing conclusions that I draw. But when people start threads asking for help and don't follow up in the thread (or hardly do) that says something. It can be many things. But this sheds new light on the matter for me and I'm basically pissed I wasted my time doing a little googling to refresh my memory to offer help to the OP only to learn he's bouncing around in the steroid forum and who knows where and what else. NOT the picture I had in my mind of the OP and won't be ever taking him seriously unless he mans up and follows up in this thread the way a person who is genuine about finding help would follow up in such a thread.
 
Get a friend and some healthy dose of MDMA. Dose, and get some weight off your shoulders. Thats my .02, See a doctor otherwise.
 
this is all really just shooting in the dark as the OP hasn't really given us much to go on. that being said, i currently take 30mgs of mirtazapine at night and 300mg of pregabalin twice a day. while mirtazapine is a pretty mediocre antidepressant it definitely works good with the pregabalin to form a sort of emotional equilibrium. while on ssri's i'd snap easily and constantly if i wasn't smoking shitloads of weed or doing large amounts of benzos simultaneously. however especially benzos really are a two-edged sort in this situation, as the disinhibition combined with the anxiolytic properties can really lead to a world of trouble.
also stay away the fuck away from alcohol or classical forms of 'speed' (amphetamine salts).
 
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