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Is there a drug that is worse than methamphetamine

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After I actually got into meth I realized why they have that lifestyle thing going on. Heroin junkies and crackheads get bad off too but I am so much more mature than I was at the beginning of the summer. I can feel this drug trying its best to get me addicted and it's hilarious. I crack myself up so much. It's got me to stop caring about everything, which is so good but so dangerous. It's even tried to get me to stop caring about weed.

Is there a drug worse than this? It really wants me to believe it's the essence of life. It's caused me to hate sleep and miss food.It's so bad it amuses me so much.
 
Sounds like you're right in the beginning of a good ol meth addiction.

For me, in the beginning all I could do was ride it out....after awhile, say a few years it won't be nearly as fun anymore.

Granted my use was always very moderate and always had 1-3 month long breaks from it....

Good luck.
 
Yes. Methamphetamine can be taken responsibly and safely (orally) as a last resort ADHD or narcolepsy med. It is neurotoxic in a way that dextroamp is not, but nothing that seems worrisome unless regularly abused.

That said, meth is one of the most psychologically addictive drugs and can ruin you mentally to the point you cannot experience joy in anything. It releases a hell of a lot more dopamine than either speed or cocaine. As far as I know, relapse rates are similar to opiates. Also, like cocaine it is very possible for even young and seemingly healthy people to die from heart problems.

I would argue that alcohol is as physically destructive as meth at heavy abuse levels. Barbiturates are more dangerous both in recreation and withdrawal. Some of the hundreds of sketchy RC stims like 4-FA or PMA etc are more dangerous, as are inhalents besides nitrous. But obviously conparisons at this point are like saying it's better to be shot in the foot than the gut. Stay away unless prescribed.
 
Harm reduction practices (no redosing/high dosages, sleeping on time, proper nutrition, body temperature mgmt.) should really keep any damage at bay.

I'd say meth is one of the safer drugs if one has self-control, which is thrown out the window once you're high.

Benzos/alcohol - WDs can kill, high addiction potential that creeps up on oneself

krokodil - you literally rot from the inside out
 
betman said:
Harm reduction practices (no redosing/high dosages, sleeping on time, proper nutrition, body temperature mgmt.) should really keep any damage at bay.

I'd say meth is one of the safer drugs if one has self-control, which is thrown out the window once you're high.

Benzos/alcohol - WDs can kill, high addiction potential that creeps up on oneself

krokodil - you literally rot from the inside out
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Krokodil isn't very common and it's not the actual drug part that causes the harm. It's all the adulterants. I point this out cause to not have it said is misleading.

If you ask me, there is no clear answer to this question. I mean we can objectively lay out all the bad shit about each drug and subjectively evaluate it all, but it isn't a very accurate picture. Because in practice what drug is the worst drug varies from person to person.

Pretty much anyone who knows the reality would agree that methamphetamine is physiologically more harmful than heroin. And it is more harmful in reality for some people.

But others, like me, it's heroin that's the worst. Because heroin is addictive to me. Meth isn't. So I might use meth sometimes, but it'll likely never do me the kind of harm heroin has played a part in with my life. But for someone else it could be the other way around.

Some people, alcohol is the worst drug for them to use, but it isn't for me. Cause I can control my use of alcohol. Some people can't. Some people try heroin and don't enjoy it and won't have it destroy their life. But for me, it lead me to losing virtually everything of value I had in my life.

So yeah, I don't think this question has a simple answer. We could talk about which drug is likely the most physiologically harmful. But what would be the point? Apart from a purely acedemic question as something to talk about, it doesn't matter which is the most harmful in that sense, cause it says nothing as to which drug will actually be the most harmful to any individual person. The answer is again, misleading.
 
JessFR said:
So yeah, I don't think this question has a simple answer. We could talk about which drug is likely the most physiologically harmful. But what would be the point? Apart from a purely acedemic question as something to talk about, it doesn't matter which is the most harmful in that sense, cause it says nothing as to which drug will actually be the most harmful to any individual person. The answer is again, misleading.
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Actually, I think there could be a simple answer if the question was more specific. You're right in that different drugs pose different risks for individuals. I think if the question were split into categories, such as which is most neurologically damaging, or bodily, or socially, or most addictive, the answer would not be misleading.

Well, that is, if there's a list rather than just one drug for each category.
 
You're right, if the question were more specific there would be more accurate answers.

In terms of the classical drugs, in terms of physiological harm, I'd go for either meth or alcohol. Not sure which, they're both pretty bad. Socially, heroin probably, it still has a real bad stigma, especially IV but a lot of people mentally associate heroin with IV use regardless. In terms of addictive mess though, one again, depends in the person. IV heroin and meth are probably top of the list though.

Could also categorize worst psychologically, but then we'd be talking hallucinogens most likely, which is the one drug class I have almost no experience with.
 
This thread will become messy and misleading pretty quick with everyone's opinion.

I will say prescription therapitic methamphetamine that is used with every harm reduction practice available, is the closest you will get to safe meth, imo.

Besides that there are too many drugs to list. Shit that makes limbs fall off, is probably the worst.

Safest : Cannabis. (Everyone is different. Start low).

I'm closing this. Too much of anything is bad.
Closed.
 
Meth is used for medicinal purposes in the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea.

I would have said Krokodil after watching a documentary. The rotting of the body parts was truly shocking. I thought the Russian pharmaceutical crowd were no better than say big pharma in the states as a result of producing something as horrible as this.

I'm sure you will always come across something that is worse. Coke and heroin cause they actually come from a plant that is natural on the earth as oppossed to meth which is completely chemical makes them a lot less harmful to a point in contrast to meth. But then thats my 2c on the subject.
 
Oh for fucks sake. I'll say it again. It's not the drug that's evil or causes rotting limbs it's the adulterants that exist as a result of illegal production and it has nothing to do with "anything pharma". If a pharmaceutical company made it none of this shit would happen, you have it all backward.

This is exactly the kind of spreading of ignorance that hurts drug users ALL the time.

Whatever, I'm sure you'll believe whatever you prefer. This thread will be closed pretty soon. That it's still open now is obviously a mistake.
 
JessFR said:
Oh for fucks sake. I'll say it again. It's not the drug that's evil or causes rotting limbs it's the adulterants that exist as a result of illegal production and it has nothing to do with "anything pharma". If a pharmaceutical company made it none of this shit would happen, you have it all backward.

This is exactly the kind of spreading of ignorance that hurts drug users ALL the time.
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I know what you are saying and I did not say you were wrong and if you look at what I said, I did not diminsh what you were saying. In fact I'm thinking you probably correct in what you were saying. The doc I watched was pretty intense and I was overwhelmed by the graphic nature of the stuff. I did not rubbish what you said mate so you should actually anaylse what some1 says a bit more closely. Hope you can understand.
 
Nah hallucinogens are the best psychologically. Ayahuasca changed my life for the better. I only took it twice 3 years ago and I am far better off. Meth on the other hand makes me not care about anything except meth. I see why people say it's the devil now.

Every time I do meth I can feel it begging me not to stop, it's the most rewarding feeling. Why would I care about my life when I'm melting and spinning some crystal.
 
It was my mistake. I've had a change of view. I'll leave this open as long as it stays on topic. This is a good topic as long as it remains HR.
 
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