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Is the knowledge of good and evil, good or evil?

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Is the knowledge of good and evil, good or evil?

For you, me, and Adam to answer this question; we need the knowledge of good and evil.

Adam may have needed what he was denied by Yahweh to know if the tree of the knowledge of all things, is good or evil to eat from. As scriptures say, he was mentally and morally blind without it.

You and I cannot see any better than Adam could when our mental eyes are blind on issues and without knowledge of them.

It seems that Yahweh put Adam in a catch 22. Damned to being mentally blind and as bright as a brick and unable to reproduce, or condemned to death if he educated himself. .

Regards
DL
 
assclass said:
The application of knowledge can be good or evil, but knowledge is just a store of information, neutral until used.
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Correct on your first, but is having access to and using knowledge and information good or evil.

Did Adam do a good thing or an evil thing when he "sinned", as Christians call it?

Regards
DL
 
Frankly spoken, I've gotten information from demons and I don't know what to think because it puts me in a trance. I didn't know you saw evil at all. I guess my impression was that you saw it as something which is abstract versus concrete

Evil is real. I'm a musician with good hearing and to me it has certain tones I pick up on. I don't know why I can hear it, but I do. Fortunately I have an ability to tune it out but sometimes, especially at night I give in to it and get information about things

However I know it's all this stuff about evil going on with demons. I even learned names of demons this way when I was a kid, then I'd see some of them in my parents' house

I wish I had more knowledge of good. That's why I don't believe in anything because I've only seen bad or obscure things in my immediate environment. None of it influenced me because I could see it happening in front of me, rather than inside of me; completely lucid

It would be a stretch, but I'll mention that I've also seen what appear to be angels. They only proved to scare the crap out of me though and I didn't know what was going on
 
I'm not someone who doesn't believe in absolute good or evil in the corporeal sense. I used to be that way, now I'm not. Maybe that's a product of trauma or having seen some things, I don't know. However, practically all examples are shades of grey. That said, it's possible to use insight and wisdom to see through this question. The dualistic nature of the question itself can cause confusion and illusion. In other words it's a false binary. If we're all just the many masks of god, then there is no real good or evil, anymore than god can be pure good or pure evil. I feel that the question of good or evil is a mind problem and not an actual problem.

In another sense... how do you know what's good and what's evil, if you believe both exist? They say evil is always changing its form... and sometimes what is good causes suffering but is doing so for some cathartic purpose.
 
Depends, little Skittle. You see from a biblical perspective, Eva and Adam they sacrified themselves for humanity. Eva ate an apple and that was ''Evilness'' and iirc Adam ribs was something that that phuu.. I think creation?? yeah, creation. So that's that, you know but it's beyond that it should be like a radioactive sphere because from a radioactive situation you can protect yourself, don't laugh it's tru, you have masks right, rite and so that's about knowledge. On the other hand you got what we call ''internet'' and if you ask someone how would the world look like without internet they would reply with ''DARK AGE'', already thinkin about knights and templars swords and shits, like I said it's beyond what one can think, right. Nowadays to have self-control it's a very rare trait, lotta fried kids out there.
 
I thought about this after my post. It's hard to explain evil when it's not something easily done. That is, evil exists but not amongst humans. You could call this my theory but it's something I realize to be that way

Actually I only say this from experience. When I first encountered a demon I was crippled with fear; I couldn't physically move because of adrenaline. Humans don't scare me and there's no way to even compare these things. They come from different places

I can't prove it but I actually think that demons come from and live right here on Earth. That might mean they mostly live in other dimensions, whatever those are. They've been here for a long time just like the stars. I don't buy that demons ever originated in the cosmos, but rather right here like us

That's the only similarity in my feeble mind ;)
 
Forbidden knowledge is always going to be a problem of "Us" and "Other". A truth you cannot look in the face. Yes, you can go out and rape someone right now, get away with it, and not be judged in the afterlife. Not only is it truths about nature it's about Ideology and culture, the ramifications of scribbling on the margins or not listening to authority.
The Bible will always show its age in how sloppily written it is and how wanton its ethics are applied. However, 'is the knowledge of good and evil, good, or evil?' it simply occupies both spaces at the same time. Just don't over push any boundaries..."OKAY EVE, JESUS, IT'S THAT FUCKING TREE OVER THERE. DO NOT GO OVER THERE."
 
The rewritten copy of time.. through Eve.. who meditated on eternity.. can as well seek the grail through the fruit of good and evil..

Imagine to know forever the worst possible outcomes of things..

For Adam it was to be strong.. and the idea of being stronger than others..

Eve though.. was more fruit for thought.. she is a good djinn and shes still alive..

Eve
 
Foreigner said:
I'm not someone who doesn't believe in absolute good or evil in the corporeal sense. I used to be that way, now I'm not. Maybe that's a product of trauma or having seen some things, I don't know. However, practically all examples are shades of grey. That said, it's possible to use insight and wisdom to see through this question. The dualistic nature of the question itself can cause confusion and illusion. In other words it's a false binary. If we're all just the many masks of god, then there is no real good or evil, anymore than god can be pure good or pure evil. I feel that the question of good or evil is a mind problem and not an actual problem.

In another sense... how do you know what's good and what's evil, if you believe both exist? They say evil is always changing its form... and sometimes what is good causes suffering but is doing so for some cathartic purpose.
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Correct, and a part of that mind problem is why I asked the question.

So do you see the mind problem of the knowledge of good and evil, --- as good or evil?

Regards
DL
 
Shady's Fox said:
Depends, little Skittle. You see from a biblical perspective, Eva and Adam they sacrified themselves for humanity. Eva ate an apple and that was ''Evilness'' and iirc Adam ribs was something that that phuu.. I think creation?? yeah, creation. So that's that, you know but it's beyond that it should be like a radioactive sphere because from a radioactive situation you can protect yourself, don't laugh it's tru, you have masks right, rite and so that's about knowledge. On the other hand you got what we call ''internet'' and if you ask someone how would the world look like without internet they would reply with ''DARK AGE'', already thinkin about knights and templars swords and shits, like I said it's beyond what one can think, right. Nowadays to have self-control it's a very rare trait, lotta fried kids out there.
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Along with their parents.

Did you have an answer to the O.P.?

Regards
DL
 
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