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Is Morphine a good anticonvulsant ?

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I'm on the tail end of a fairly long Diaz taper, I'm down to 30mgs a day, having managed to work up to 3 figures daily for at least 3-4 months before the taper.

I've recently shattered my knee in a motorcycle accident and I'm currently on 60mgs of MST slow release a day, not having messed with opiated before and now I'm back home, stranded on the sofa I've been reading up a bit on Morphine. There seems to be quite a lot of information saying its a anticonvulsant.

I've managed to stay on the straight and narrow on my taper and even let them know in hospital about the situation as this is self administered with illicit Diazepam

Does anyone have a view as to whether I could cut the taper a bit harder, I'm not going to CT given my intake of Morphine.

Thanks for any help
 
Opiates lower the seizure threshold, so it might be that all seizure inducing drugs are spasm inducing while all muscle relaxant drugs are spasm relaxing, but I'm not sure. Personally, I've found hydrocodone to help with only the pain from severe muscle spasms from a car accident, while doing nothing for the spasms themselves.

I would go so far to say that even though Morphine is more sedating and has better muscle relaxant and anticonvulsant properties, that it might make spasms worse overall due to the stimulant nature of all opioids through released dopamine, which breaks down in to norepinephrine.

Magnesium (chelated), potassium, Neurontin, and Kava Kava are far better muscle relaxants than Morphine, since you don't want to get dependent on Diazepam again, although the Neurontin will screw up your taper a tad by flaring up rebound withdrawal symptoms as it wears off, so be careful and conservative with it, try it only if the others fail.
 
No morphine is not a good anti-convulsant at all in fact opiates/opioids can actually induce seizures under the right or wrong circumstances. Morphine does not lower the seizure threshold nearly as bad as opioids such as (dextro)propoxyphene, tramadol or Demerol (meperidine, pethidine) do but it's not going to substitute for a real anti-convulsant that's for sure.

If you want to speed up your benzo taper abit i have heard people say that valproate aka sodium valproate aka divalproex (brands names epival, depakote, epilem, etc) which is a popular and rather old anti-convulsant does help benzo WD. It's easy to get from a doctor because it has absolutly no rec value but you have to make sure to get blood tests to check blood levels of the medication and to make sure it's not fucking up your liver. It is known as a rather harsh medication but i never had any trouble with it when i took it for bipolar disorder. Granted it never helped me either :\
 
spini4 said:
Not the best but yes morphine has anticonvulsant properties. Check here for more information http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Doi=138189 ..... It states tho that anticonvulsant property's were lost in higher dosages.
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Yea, I wouldn't chance trying to figure out the correct dose that would help prevent a seizure, vs the dose that would help cause one. Way too risky without proper medical supervision. You also have to consider that in between dosing morphine the withdrawals may contribute to seizures due to increased blood pressure.
 
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