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Is it time to get rid of the DEA?

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Congress should consider merging the scandal-plagued DEA with the FBI, writes guest columnist Bill Piper.

http://seattletimes.com/html/opinion/2021803860_billpiperopeddea12xml.html

THIS year is the 40th anniversary of the Drug Enforcement Administration. Already plagued by scandals, the agency has recently been revealed to be collaborating with the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency to spy on unsuspecting Americans. More than 120 groups from across the political spectrum and around the globe have called on Congress to hold hearings on the DEA.

There is no doubt the agency should be reformed. It is also worth asking if it should continue to exist.

According to a Reuters investigation, the DEA has been gathering information from other agencies, as well as foreign governments, for years. The DEA has also been collecting its own arsenal of data; constructing a massive database with about 1 billion records.

This information is shared in secret. By hiding the origins of its data from defense attorneys, prosecutors and judges, the agency and its partners effectively are undermining the right of the people it targets to a fair trial.

According to The New York Times the DEA even has unlimited access to an AT&T database of all calls passing through its phones and switches. Under the Hemisphere Project, the U.S. government pays AT&T to place its employees inside the DEA, so that the DEA can use these experts to gain access to decades of detailed records of U.S. citizens’ phone calls.

Then there’s the DEA’s disregard for science. It obstructed a formal request to reschedule marijuana for 16 years. After being forced by the courts to make a decision, the agency declared marijuana to have no medical value, despite massive evidence to the contrary.

The agency’s own administrative law judge held two years of hearings and concluded marijuana in its natural form is “one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man” and should be made available for medical use. Similar hearings on MDMA, aka ecstasy, concluded it has important medical uses, but the DEA again overruled its administrative law judge.

There is a robust supply of other DEA debacles. The Department of Justice’s “Fast and Furious” scandal exposed DEA agents who smuggled or laundered millions of dollars in profits for illegal drug organizations as part of an ongoing sting operation.

The story continues: http://seattletimes.com/html/opinion/2021803860_billpiperopeddea12xml.html
 
The DEA seem to have been plaguing american citizens for quite some time. It just seems like a big organization of bullies that serves no other purpose than to spy on it's own people and undermine their civil rights.

It needs to go.
 
The "DEA needs to go" people never get any traction.

We should focus more on limiting their power, like on how they will do raids on states with med laws. The news looks on that front though...
 
Drugs should be legalized and state licensed "dealers" with qualifications and educations taken from parts of the curriculum of Registered nurses / pharmacist / addiction counselors should be the sellers and over sees distribution and any resultant problems. Users would be monitored through a license to use drugs that was obtained through a certification program. People would receive reasonable amounts of drugs through a prescription type system and would be monitored by their "dealers" for problems. People would be required to use drugs responsibly, like no using and driving, no using to the point of psychosis or overdose. If these problems surface then a person would be put on restrictions and be forced to learn how to use with out these problems or they would be cut from using the drugs that caused the problems with them. They would have to be functional users and addicts and maintain jobs and lives. People would be offered the mental health and medical care they need as well that is paid for through taxes on sales. With everyone on all the prescription speed, opiates, benzos I just dont see this as the stretch I once did.

The DEA could then be responsible for enforcing and dealing with any black market and violence that remained or surfaced up again. But I really dont see the major drug producers wanting to deal with street thugs any more if they are able to deal legitimately with out hassles legally. So much of the violence that plagues our cities and so many countries.
 
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the DEA should be gone but someone should be monitoring peoples drug use but to help not to lock them up
 
Good article. The DEA is a drain of taxpayer money. Legalize drugs so that the DEA have no purpose. Give that money to the working poor instead.
 
Agencies like this shouldn't even exist, 'cause prohibition shouldn't. Of course, it's unlikely they'll go; they're too powerful, and have a strong agenda in continuing the insanity. In a rational world, these guy's would be a cautionary footnote of history, comparable to Heinrich Himmlers SS.
 
And the dea stormtroopers are surely hard with excitement at that fact...

Seriously, is it really a healthy mind that enjoys throwing people in cages and blasting people with tasers (or worse) if they "resist"?

You could even call it a borderline sociopathic person who wants to do that with their life...
 
I read somewhere that the really sucessful people can have psychopathic traits" ie moguls, politicians (just look at donald trump).....not full-blown axe murderer psychotic or anything, with george "mr lethal injection" bush as a possible exception.
 
Then there’s the DEA’s disregard for science. It obstructed a formal request to reschedule marijuana for 16 years. After being forced by the courts to make a decision, the agency declared marijuana to have no medical value, despite massive evidence to the contrary.

The agency’s own administrative law judge held two years of hearings and concluded marijuana in its natural form is “one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man” and should be made available for medical use. Similar hearings on MDMA, aka ecstasy, concluded it has important medical uses, but the DEA again overruled its administrative law judge.

I don't understand why a government branch designed to "enforce" laws has any say in the "Creation" of laws. We don't let the police run the Senate, so why trust the DEA's opinion over the Dept of Health or the FDA or the USDA or the NAS or the AMA or...
 
The DEA should have never been created in the first place. Their intent was never to protect the people.
 
Isn't there a way to get rid of them if the citizens of America do not want them? I mean the state is for the people, by the people. So if the people, who make up the state, do not want this organization to rule them and enforce law, then the DEA should cease to exist.

Isn't there any sort of way? Like some sort of a petition, or using something like change.org and see if it gathers millions of signatures? Anyone know?
 
They are an absolute drain on taxpaayer money, are uneducated bulliies that think spending millions of dollars on an operation to take a few hundred pounds of weed of the street is winning the war on drugs and saving the kids. I dont think they should be completely dismantles but they need a humongous budget cut, admit marijuana is not a cI drug, stop spying on americans and basically stop all the bullshit piddly drug stuff in this country. They caant win shit because the demand for drugs is so incredibly high in this country. They will never win anything. Maybe they could be border gurads or something. No guns tho, bc they would just find a reason to shoot people.
 
I said it in another thread. If the tea partiers can organize for the wrong reasons, the rest of the population can organize for the right ones. We all need to stand to be heard. It is time to mayberry up the police and take away all their new destructive toys. They no longer serve and protect...they serve up tyranny and protect the interests of their cronies in the blue gang.
 
MBC I think you will be surprised when you look at the tea parties stance on this and allot of other things.. they are libritarians and that means freedom..

The Tea Party and the Drug War

The Tea Party and the War on Drugs


I think the tea party gets a bad wrap because allot of people havn't taken the time to look at what the actually stand for and has been caught up in allot of the propaganda flying around about them.. I really like allot of what they stand for and think they may do really good soon, especially considering people are getting pretty fed up with those two ass clown parties in there now.
 
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Isn't there any sort of way? Like some sort of a petition, or using something like change.org and see if it gathers millions of signatures? Anyone know?

Petitions are useless.
 
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