Bupe Is it possible to taper myself so well i wont feel any withdrawal?

[purplehaze147]

Right now I'm down to around 0.75mg of buprenorphine a day. I slowly tapered myself down & feel no withdrawal. Oddly with buprenorphine if I take less I feel more, like I actually feel a tiny buzz from 1mg but don't feel anything from 12mg. It's such a weird opioid. Anyway, if I keep slowly tapering myself down to say like 20mcg (0.020mg) & stop I shouldn't really feel any withdrawal right? I may be going to jail & I don't want to be going through any withdrawal in that hell hole, it's bad enough completely healthy.

 

[incaseofaburglar]

I have known a couple of people who tapered their way off buprenorphine and were successful. However, I know others, where this didn't work. I would taper as much as possible, as slowly as you can (with your time limits). For me, PAWs were the hardest part of buprenorphine withdrawal - while with methadone, it was the acute withdrawal that was so difficult.

I have a few friends who switched over to kratom from buprenorphine and then tapered from that successfully, which is an option if you feel jumping off is too difficult. Good luck!

 

[serotonin2A]

Theoretically if you go low enough you won't experience any withdrawal. It's just a matter of finding the right level. 0.02 mg is pretty low. You could stop at that level and see if you experience withdrawal, and then keep tapering down more if you do.

 

[Kid Amine]

Your taper plan is perfect. Depending on how long you've taken it and at what dosages, your taper time will vary. I've jumped off at 250mcg (1/4 mg, a 32nd of an 8mg strip/pill) and felt no ill effects, either acute or long term. Id go down to 0.5mg/day for a week or two, then 0.25mg/day for 2-4... at the end, try skipping days and see how it works for you. Most ppl fuck up tapers because they jump off at 2mg, or go 8,4,2,1 then nada over the course of a few days...it's too fast. Keep in mind the strongest Butrans patch doses 100mcg/hr, or 2.4mg/day, so .75mg is still a lot. good luck with your taper and court stuff ~~

 

[spacejunk]

Yep, you should be able to negate most of the worst WD symptoms by jumping off as low as possible.
Even if it doesn't eliminate all discomfort, it's the best way to do it IMO.

 

[szuko000]

You should be fine at that dose. I jumped off at 0.25mg and I felt extremely mild withdrawals. The only symptom I experienced was wanting to take my tiny amount of subs and maybe a slightly crappy mood but nothing i would even say as withdrawal. You might want to consider putting more time between doses like 1 every 36 hours or 1 every 48. At your level its mostly a mind game.

 

[burn out]

What you need to do is extend the time between doses in addition to tapering the dose down, simply tapering to even an absurdly low dose never completely negates withdrawal for me.

 

[Keif' Richards]

A lot of people share your experience with buprenorphine in regards to your "less is more" experience. I'd be lying if I said I had a lot of experience with the substance. I've used it dozens of times while in the throws of heroin addiction to maintain in between scores, but I have never been on anything like Buprenorphine Maintenance.

I have done my fair share of different opiates though. I've done slow tapers off of both heroin and methadone and I can say that there will always be some amount of pain involved in the process of opiate withdrawal. How tolerable the withdrawal syndrome is in your case specifically depends mostly on willpower. Your ability to be objective in your decisions of when and how much to dose are key. You can't say "Oh well, I had a shit day, I'm just gonna take a little more tonight and make it up in a couple of days". It never works. On the subject of willpower, positive attitude is very useful.

You are almost there though, so congratulations. Getting off of maintenance is a bitch. Just stick with it man.

 

[suzy3200]

yes it just takes time and patience you have to get down to next to nothing

 

[spacejunk]

I have done my fair share of different opiates though. I've done slow tapers off of both heroin and methadone and I can say that there will always be some amount of pain involved in the process of opiate withdrawal. How tolerable the withdrawal syndrome is in your case specifically depends mostly on willpower. Your ability to be objective in your decisions of when and how much to dose are key. You can't say "Oh well, I had a shit day, I'm just gonna take a little more tonight and make it up in a couple of days". It never works. On the subject of willpower, positive attitude is very useful.

Buprenorphine is a particularly good detox/tapering agent because it is not a full agonist (rather, an agonist/antagonist if I have my facts straight).
More than most other opiates/opioids it has been successfully used by lots of people to massively reduce withdrawals.
IMO it is a better drug for detox than it is for maintenance.
Keep going OP - get that dose as low as you can and say bye-bye to that monkey