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Is it foolish to call God, “Father”?

Shrooms00087 said:
I'm with Zizek on this. Christianity is an egalitarian religion. Sheep is a powerful symbol. The mythology is very deep and rich with meaning. "To be a proper atheist...A better atheist one must go through Christianity" Zizek. “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.” G.K. Chesterton.
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He shall rule over you. Man will rule over women. Sure sound egalitarian. Not.

Common buddy. You are not stupid so do not make stupid statements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related

Regards
DL
 
I think it is just about equally as foolish to call God "Father" as it is to call him anything else, this is primarily influenced by the fact I am an atheist and find the notion of a God to be quite ridiculous, or at least any God in any of the mainstream religions. Also, most people tend to view God as an omnipotent being that see's and hears everything, why do you need to add a pointless noun to the start of a sentence that the omnipotent being knows is being directed at it any way? That doesn't make much sense.

I suppose I can see referring to God as Father making some degree of sense if you believe God created life, and therefore you, there is some level of logic and continuity there, but for the two points I already mentioned I do find it kind of silly.
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
He shall rule over you. Man will rule over women. Sure sound egalitarian. Not.

Common buddy. You are not stupid so do not make stupid statements.
Regards
DL
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You are again reading it wrong. You seem to be uncomfortable with "Him" ruling over you. But you know He is a lot like the Super-Ego. Instead, what should be said is "There will be rule". This seems to be a safe truism.
 
drug_mentor said:
I think it is just about equally as foolish to call God "Father" as it is to call him anything else, this is primarily influenced by the fact I am an atheist and find the notion of a God to be quite ridiculous, or at least any God in any of the mainstream religions. Also, most people tend to view God as an omnipotent being that see's and hears everything, why do you need to add a pointless noun to the start of a sentence that the omnipotent being knows is being directed at it any way? That doesn't make much sense.

I suppose I can see referring to God as Father making some degree of sense if you believe God created life, and therefore you, there is some level of logic and continuity there, but for the two points I already mentioned I do find it kind of silly.
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No argument. That may be why some religions who do not like idol worship do not name their God. One religion, I have forgotten which, adherents are to face a blank wall while meditating to insure no idol creeps into their systems.

Regards
DL
 
Shrooms00087 said:
You are again reading it wrong. You seem to be uncomfortable with "Him" ruling over you. But you know He is a lot like the Super-Ego. Instead, what should be said is "There will be rule". This seems to be a safe truism.
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That quote was males ruling over females. I am a male.


Further, being Gnostic Christian, I know that I am to rule over myself.

http://www.thesongofgod.com/tgc/basic_beliefs.html

Regards
DL
 
It's all a terrible ancient translation. "Humanity makes the rules for Truth, Beauty, and Justice." All you needed was a new translation instead of getting hooked on the material aspects of the reading. Also, you make your own Truth, Beauty, and Justice --but you do this by participating in the community. In Hermeticism it says "The All is in the All".
 
Shrooms00087 said:
It's all a terrible ancient translation. "Humanity makes the rules for Truth, Beauty, and Justice." All you needed was a new translation instead of getting hooked on the material aspects of the reading. Also, you make your own Truth, Beauty, and Justice --but you do this by participating in the community. In Hermeticism it says "The All is in the All".
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There is a lot of that going about.

Regards
DL
 
IMO, it is not foolish to call God, Father. The reason Jesus Christ was sacrifice is because all of us sin and no one is found righteous or holy in the sight of God. It can be found in Ro. 3:20-25. Any father would choose to sacrifice one of his son for the salvation of the rest of his children than to suffer all of his children. After all, it is only the body or flesh that die and not the spirit.
 
charleton said:
IMO, it is not foolish to call God, Father. The reason Jesus Christ was sacrifice is because all of us sin and no one is found righteous or holy in the sight of God. It can be found in Ro. 3:20-25. Any father would choose to sacrifice one of his son for the salvation of the rest of his children than to suffer all of his children. After all, it is only the body or flesh that die and not the spirit.
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If required yes. In this case, there was no requirement. God could have just forgiven with this.
2 Peter3:9
The Lordis not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but islongsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that allshould come to repentance.

If God is not willing that any be lost then none will be lost. Right?

As to God creating us all as sinners.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expectingdifferent results.Albert Einstein

Is your God insane? If not, why not change his creating methods to create what he wants?

Regards
DL
 
It's not necessarily foolish to call God "Father", depending on what sort of relationship you seek to establish with the formless and timeless One at the bottom of it all. But it is ignorant to not realize that one has the option of calling God by many other names.
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Dogma says that all that is is created by God but I can understand those who do not believe their dogma.

Regards
DL
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Yeah He created Adam and Eve...Along with everything else. There's an emphasis on just Adam and Eve for a very specific purpose; see last post.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
It's not necessarily foolish to call God "Father", depending on what sort of relationship you seek to establish with the formless and timeless One at the bottom of it all. But it is ignorant to not realize that one has the option of calling God by many other names.
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Yes and it happens that I am working on a new O.P. that speaks to that. Please preview it for me. I will listen carefully to your critique.

God is God of Gods, King ofKings and Prick of Pricks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g

God is said to have athousand names. I would like to officially add one.

I have been discussing moralsin these places and even occasionally actually have a Christian try to justifyhis genocidal son murdering God for some time now.

Christians cannot excuseGod’s immoral actions and it seems that the Christian default for God’s poormorals is now just a head shake and a, well, God can do whatever he like to us,--- because he owns us.

No. Slave Master is not thenew name I would propose.

No one would care and no onewould notice. Slavery has been done to death just like many other immoralpractices that Christianity embraces.

No, I need something not doneto death.

In the beginning of Templeand Church life, the Priests and Temple Prostitutes, male and female, were keyto the operation and success of the temple. God then was God of the Temple Prostitutes,--- male and female, --- and God of the Gay Priests and Priestesses. Is it anywonder that some of the more holy men took to the hills?

Mind you they did not quiteunderstand that things had to be that way where resources were finite and manyvital men were, eh, frisky. It was that or burn more babies in the garbagefires. God forbid. I digress.

The point is, in terms of anew name, and why I showed the hierarchy of the Church and Temple, is that Iwould add this name to the God name list and only because of his greatimmorality.

God being named Prick ofPricks already, I would add to his names, ------ if God is God of all, ---Dirty Cocksucker.

What do you think?

Regards
DL
 
Haha. You are trapped in God's all encompassing metaphor. Do tell. What, first, is the nature of the serpent. THEN why does it need to speak/deceive? I would answer these questions because it's an interesting topic, however, I am now more interested in what you know. Because you jump from literal biblical reading to non-literal. Stick to the core principle at hand.
 
Shrooms00087 said:
Haha. You are trapped in God's all encompassing metaphor. Do tell. What, first, is the nature of the serpent. THEN why does it need to speak/deceive? I would answer these questions because it's an interesting topic, however, I am now more interested in what you know. Because you jump from literal biblical reading to non-literal. Stick to the core principle at hand.
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And you are trapped in a creator one.

All I know is that any belief can be internalized to give enlightenment and open our third eye. Access to the Godhead is within us.

Other than that, the main thing I push is that literal reading of scriptures have corrupted Christianity and the morals of their adherents.

Any religion that does not have equality as a main part of it's theology is not a worthy theology and that includes most of the Abrahamic cult.

All should be thought of as myth until one has his apotheosis.

Regards
DL
 
No, I am a Christian-atheist. Trapped I am not. However I never hesitate to answer a question I don't know with "Only God knows".

You gnostics take the reading too far.
 
Shrooms00087 said:
No, I am a Christian-atheist. Trapped I am not. However I never hesitate to answer a question I don't know with "Only God knows".

You gnostics take the reading too far.
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1Thesalonian 5;21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Any good student of any policy or belief will take it to the smallest and largest, apply it to one and many, to see if it is worthy.

That is what we do and that is why our morality is superior to most Abrahamic cults. Especially Christianity and Islam.

Regards
DL
 
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