Is Cold Medicine Less Effective Because of the Meth War?

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During this cold season, many people may find that their favorite cold medication is not packing the punch it used to.

An active ingredient in many cold medications — the decongestant pseudoephedrine — is no longer allowed in drugstore aisles because in large quantities it can be used to make the illegal drug methamphetamine.

"If you are in a convenience store, a grocery store, an airport, you are not going to be able to get the decongestant that is actually effective," said Dr. Leslie Hendeles of the University of Florida.

The Food and Drug Administration now requires pharmacies to keep medications with pseudoephedrine behind the counter and available only with photo ID and signature.

Many consumers using pseudoephedrine-based medicine for perfectly legal reasons find the new regulations excessive and inconvenient.

"I was aggravated because I use Sudafed all the time. I felt like I was buying an illegal substance or narcotic," said one female drugstore customer.


Fewer Choices on the Shelves

Some cold medicine manufacturers have changed their formula to keep their products on the shelves and now use an ingredient called phenylephrine, which many say doesn't work as well and must be taken more often.

"For some people, there have been complaints that it doesn't last quite as long, doesn't work quite as well as pseudoephedrine," said David Morgan of the American Pharmacists Association.

Other manufacturers, like the makers of Claritin-D, stuck with their original product, even if it meant being put behind pharmacy counters.

Jared Bughough, whose 1-year-old son was congested with a heavy cough, was looking for something to ease his symptoms. Now the choices are severely limited. .

"They used to make Sudafed drops, which now they don't have over the counter anymore. There is really no alternative," said one drugstore pharmacist.

Drug companies stand by the new products.

McNneil Healthcare, which makes Tylenol cold medication, said both the old and new drugs "have been found safe and effective ingredients by the FDA."

Many people, however, are still coughing their way through winter.
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Is Cold Medicine Less Effective Because of the Meth War?
Active Medication Ingredient Pseudoephedrine a Main Ingredient in Making Crystal Meth

ABC News
January 31, 2007


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I can attest to the fact that these new formula doesn't work. I have allergies and pseudophedrine is the only thing that is effective.

That aside,

Now that psedophedrine is behind the counter and illegal to buy in large quantities, the home-brew meth labs are fading away.

The result?
Crystal Methamphetamine produced in Mexico which is higher quality and cheaper than the meth that was made in home labs.
 
If I have a cold, I buy whatever the generic for Aleve Cold and Sinus happens to be at the time. 220mg of naproxen sodium, 120mg of pseudoephedrine, in a 12 hour extended release tablet. I don't care if I have to wait 15 minutes and fill out a form in order to buy it. I will buy it. I only buy one box, which usually lasts me quite a while. Phenylephrine is fucking worthless.

The new laws may be inconvenient, but you can still buy pseudoephedrine based medicines over the counter. You just can't buy a lot.
 
Phenylephrine is absolutely useless. Pseudoephedrine has always been good for stuffy or runny noses, but it's not as good as ephedra. The combination of low doses of ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, octopamine, methylephedrine, etc. found in Ephedra sinica work better synergistically for allergies than pseudoephedrine alone. There's less stimulant action felt yet completely clear nasal passages, at least for me.
 
I don't think the general public understands exactly how much meth is availible. Large, too heavy to lift chunks are laying around in every city large or small. Oh..you can't cook up your little oz a week? Here, why don't we sort you out with a quarter key? I can split it off the side of my GIANT CHUNK I keep in this garbage bag.

For once I think a drug law is having a positive effect, if only to somewhat correct an even worse law. Meth cooked with the usual otc products ends up being a fairly disgusting mixture of toxic waste. Especially when made by some lowlife with a 8th grade education. A friend of mine worked in a radio shack that had the record for most lithium ion batterys sold by any radio shack for about 5 yrs running. I'd hang out up there every once an awhile, and people that came in buying alot of lithium didn't look like they could tie their own shoes led alone cook meth.
 
Haha honestly meth or amphetamine work just as good as pseudoephedrine. I'm pretty sure you can feel around a 3mg dose in your nasal passages even though you can't feel it in your brain or heart.
 
The Food and Drug Administration now requires pharmacies to keep medications with pseudoephedrine behind the counter and available only with photo ID and signature.

Dear god, you mean people will actually have to INTERACT WITH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING in order to get some cold medicines (which they hopefully dont need on even a quasi regular basis)????? The horror!

but yeah if they think this will slow meth use down, hah. its not like the world isnt made up of chemicals, and pseudoephedrine is not the only route to meth.
 
THE WOOD said:
Dear god, you mean people will actually have to INTERACT WITH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING in order to get some cold medicines (which they hopefully dont need on even a quasi regular basis)????? The horror!

but yeah if they think this will slow meth use down, hah. its not like the world isnt made up of chemicals, and pseudoephedrine is not the only route to meth.

Yeah, honestly, it's not a big deal, unless you fear being put on some temporary list that marks you as a possible home meth brewer. I mean, I use pseudoephedrine for clearing my nasal passages like any other reasonable person, and it's the only thing that works. I have nothing to fear by going up to the counter. I still get what I'm looking for, and one package is all I need, ever.
 
Actually, in Oregon, you can't buy the stuff over the counter anymore. Which means that I have to spend a $20 co-pay to get medicine that will actually do the job.

Not so much just "an inconvenience" here. We can't get medicine that works. And honestly? I haven't heard a SINGLE thing here about the meth rate falling. They can just drive to another state. Another victory for the FDA.... 8(
 
I'm sure most have noticed a recurring theme here. the misguided efforts of the U.S. government, in an effort to 'save' their citizens, have backfired again.

What they fail to recognize is that if there is a market for it people will supply it. You would think that since the U.S. is the epitomy of capitalism they would understand this better than anyone8)
 
drunken_etard said:
Ahhh this is in America. I have no porblem getting pseudophedrine OTC here.(Canada),


This isn't true. Ive already been to a few pharmacies here in canada that have sudafed behind the counter. Maybe it just hasn't moved to your area yet, don't worry it will soon enough...:p
 
I'm in agreement with kong. These laws are having a positive effect. They were obviously designed not to reduce the use of meth, but rather the home production of it. And it seems to be working. Now, I don't care if you do meth. Smoke all the meth you want, destroy your health, sell all your possessions, get a whole new set of shitty friends, ruin your life and not give a fuck, I don't care. But ruin your own goddamn life. When Joe Dumbass moves in next door and thinks he can play with toxic explosive chemicals around heat when he hasn't slept in twelve days, he is putting *my* life in danger. Remember, if you have to get a chemical synthesis recipe off a site like T**se, you are not qualified to follow it. </rant>
 
yeah, i don't see what the big deal is either unless, as Alf said, you need a prescription to buy pseudoephedrine.
if it's just behind the pharmacy counter and still costs the same as if it was in the aisles, there's no problem. it's not as if all stores completely stopped selling pseudoephedrine, from my understanding you can still get a box of it fairly easily.
 
Phenylepherine is pretty much useless, but I don't have a problem talking to the pharmacist to get stuff that actually works. Plus I think that this is actually a good way to stop morons from making meth in their trailer.
 
It really sucks. Here in Colorado I have to get the real Sudafed from the pharmacy, and there's a limit on how much you can buy. Fascists.
 
Alf said:
Actually, in Oregon, you can't buy the stuff over the counter anymore. Which means that I have to spend a $20 co-pay to get medicine that will actually do the job.

Not so much just "an inconvenience" here. We can't get medicine that works. And honestly? I haven't heard a SINGLE thing here about the meth rate falling. They can just drive to another state. Another victory for the FDA.... 8(

Are you kidding? I mean, as recently as maybe eight months ago I was able to buy it at the pharmacy counter at a Safeway in Klamath Falls, Oregon.
 
You can still buy Ephedrine OTC in Canada as far as I know. They just won't allow more than 8mg/ capsule.
 
Wasn't it bad enough that they gakked all the Sudafed up so it wouldn't easily reduce into meth?

Sudafed isn't safe to take because of all the shit they mix it with to try and thwart meth cooks anyway.

Read the ingredient list the next time you get it.

They put the general public's health in danger to spite meth cooks.
 
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