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IQ and drug addiction

wingnutlives

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Something in the sibling thread made me think to make this one. I don't know how to make a poll and not sure what options I would put, but maybe someone else can help me out.

I'm wondering if there is a correlation between having a high IQ and drug addiction. I'm not sure personality, because I did know a few addicts who had lower IQ's, but then again I saw them -after- meth abuse and that might have masked their real intelligence. Then, of course, there's the question of whether IQ actually equals intelligence.. might be a little outdated now.

Me? I have an IQ of 135 (last I checked, it was an unofficial online test) and a history of drug addiction. My sister, however, has about the same IQ (possibly higher) and has no history of addiction whatsoever.
 
only staff can make polls I think. :\
I've personally never liked IQ tests, they dont actually test a person's IQ, just their ability to take a test IMO, but the last one I took(in grade school) I scored rather well, near brilliant level...dont know the actual # though.
And while I'm not actually addiction to any 1 single drug, I do feel I'm addicted to actually doing drugs...if that makes sense.
Sorry, I realize this dosen't even come close to answering your question....
 
^agree with that.

Anyone can abuse drugs and anyone can get addicted. Go to any hospice and you'll notice they're all addicted to diamorphine, rich or poor, clever or thick. Good ol' gear doesn't discriminate.
 
limestoneman said:
What do you mean by "I saw them -after- meth abuse and that might have masked their real intelligence"?

Well, I got to know a couple people who had been former meth addicts, and although I can't gage IQ or anything like that, I know that they did not think very much. Their main activities were things like watching television, sleeping, listening to music... no reading, no conversation on anything besides simple topics. However, I got the feeling they were actually very intelligent, but meth had made their minds much dimmer (this was years of heavy meth abuse). However, who knows? They could have been that way to begin with, but I didn't know them then.
 
Where did you get the notion that they were actually very intelligent individuals pre-addiction? You said they didn't seem to be deep-thinkers.
 
IQ is a useless concept that dont really mean much of anything, and those online tests are completely meaningless. jus a heads up. I dont see this thread goin to far becuz we can already see that all different type of people get addicted to drugs. Ima leave this open but Im jus lettin you kno that you prolly aint gonna get much of a answer out of it.
 
IQ is a silly concept. A very silly concept. I took one as a child. Its 150. I just took one online and it told me i had a 129. So thats neat. Haha

IQ is a silly concept. I do not enjoy the classifying and sectioning off of people.
 
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The two people I've known who were heavy drug users were very intelligent people, but I don't think IQ has anything to do with drug use. Incidentally, both people I knew (one died, my BF) excused their drug use by saying they couldn't help it since their minds were racing all the time. They both said it helped them settle down. I think they were just bullshitting a reason to use drugs. My BF used to use his ADHD as a reason why he couldn't control himself. Another BS reason.

Intelligence comes in all different flavors. I've known some brilliant speakers who weren't very book smart, and as for me I'm horrible socially but (I wouldn't say brilliant) I'm intelligent book-wise.
 
wingnutlives said:
Me? I have an IQ of 135 (last I checked, it was an unofficial online test)

Don't mean to put you down, but those online test are total bullshit. I did something like 4/5 of them, and every time i got a very different result... :\ (from 160 (lol) to 90 (lolol) )
 
All the drug addicts I know are geniuses. All the squares I know are dumb.

P.S. I do not know any squares.
 
I think most drug users are nicer than most non-users. Friendlier. I know it's not really on-topic, but meh.
 
interesting question, alot of people would have varying experiences with this because we are all of varying intelligence and mix in various crowds.

across countries, different races, different classes, different socio-economic groups I would say there would be no trend eitherway towards drug addiction and a link with higher or lower intelligence

Drug addiction is being addicted to a good/rewarding feeling to which both intelligent and unintelligent people are susceptable to do. So really something that is a risk factor for drug addiction will be a far more accurate bet to have correlation to drug addiction/abuse - (eg having been abused as a child, traumatic event/s, mental illness etc)/(IQ is never on those lists lol)

Education level would be perhaps a more interesting factor to compare rates or tendancies towards drug addiction/abuse. Here one would guess higher educated people would have on average lower rates of drug addiction, perhaps not by much though. This would depend on the country/region also and would probably vary a fair bit actually. Cause this crowd on here is on average well educated but would have a high level of drug adiction/abuse lol.
 
I used to think that the higher a person's IQ (SAT, CAT, whatever test you want to use to measure that kind of right brain intelligence with) the higher the chances were that that person would favor cocaine or amphetamine over other drugs. But then again those who use cocaine around where I live/lived are the ones who came from money and thus grew up in an environment more conducive to higher education (better schools, highly educated parents, etc.).
 
GenericMind said:
I don't think there's a correlation. I know a lot of really dumb drug addicts and I know a lot of really smart drug addicts.
I agree.


It just so happens that you see the lesser addicts since the smarts cover it well and aren't obvious street junkies.
 
There are many different views on this. The one I have heard most; recently (due to the fact i have regularly been attending NA meetings in effort to change my habits) has been that the "disease" of addiction does not discriminate as to whether the addict is rich, poor, smart, dumb, healthy or unhealthy. As someone posted above addiction occurs mainly due to the feeling one experiences when they ingest a certain drug. Some drugs cause both physical and psychological dependence while some only cause psychological. Speaking from my experience and the experience others have shared I cant think of a drug that is physically addicting that does not also cause psycholgical addiction (i.e. cravings, preoccupation with how to achieve that next high). For example, my DOC(s) and downfall was mainly heroin and cocaine (only used coke with heroin but needed the dope to physically maintain so I always saw it as the main issue). And as with any drug I have used and liked, prior to physical dependence I always had at least some level of mental desire to experience that high again. But once the physical dependence kicked in, it was like "I cant survive without that shit".
Just realized how bad this has become an off topic cocaine induced ramble about addiction in general and not answering the original question. In my opinion, if you are educated about drugs before you use them and really research drugs like heroin (the first drug I could clearly not control), and truly believe that no matter how good it feels the withdrawl symptoms and other negative consequences of addiction like preoccupation with use, lack of interest in other activities, ect... is not worth the high, then there is at least a higher chance that you will succeed in using recreationally and not becoming addicted. On the other hand what I've been hearing non-stop recently as an addict in recovery is that some people are born with or develop this "disease" of addiction and that you cannot control it. I still struggle with this idea very, very much, because as someone in early recovery I still fantasize about the idea of using again but keeping it recreational, responsible and occasional. I feel that many smart addicts think that because they are smart once they can handle things like heroin or other addictive drugs. In my mind its very important to maintain that level of control in early experimentation with drugs. Life is all about balance, I love drugs, everything about them, but I lost interest in my life in order to get high all the time, and before that happened I loved life. Dont let yourself become preoccupied with using when you first start and I feel it will be much less likely that you will become addicted. Because it's much harder to do away with that preoccupation than it is to become mentally preoccupied with use. So be vigilant about what could happen and what is actually happening and drugs can be an amazing life experience. Just my point of view geekin on yayo with a suboxone and xanny appetizer.
 
i've heard many times that addicts have a higher overall IQ and intelligence level than the general population... and i believe it.. the smartest people i know are addicts or ex-addicts.

i have a 140 IQ and am a benzo/opiate addict.
 
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