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Insuffulation (snorting) damage mega merged thread

You damage your nose every time that you snort something. How long before it is noticeable and/or long-term damage? That depends on what, how much, and how often you're snorting.

I hate putting stuff up my nose. Didn't stop me over NYE though :\
 
To what extent is snorting harmful to the lungs and nasal passages?

I've been searching for a couple years now every now and then to try to find any kind of reputable information about the effects of snorting things on the lungs and nasal passages. Of course I'm aware that different drugs and different formulations for things such as pills makes a huge difference in their harmfulness. I'm sure it's generally considered unhealthy to snort a pill pressed with binders, fillers, and disintegrants such as microcrystalline cellulose (or methyl or hydroxymethyl) or waxes or plasticizers, but to what extent is it actually harmful? Can it cause permanent damage or breakdown of alveolar lining such as in emphysema? Do waxes and binders stay in the lungs forever or for very long periods of time like tar from smoking? Do many drugs directly kill cells or cause permanent damage (not including carcinogens and mutagens, let's stick to non-carcinogens here)? Obviously sharp crystals like molly, 2C's, cocaine, meth, etc cause real damage and can cause scarring, inflexibility, and increase the risk of cancer by the same mechanism as asbestos does, but would the powder forms of these drugs cause any significant lung damage? I'm sure large amounts of hydrophilic drug formulations could cause mild pneumonia (edema caused by increased osmolarity inside lungs), but is it significant? Some people suggest that the burning sensation from insufflation is often caused by the acidic counterion left over when an alkaloid passes through the membrane, as in 2C-E*HCl --> 2C-E + HCl -->(absorption) HCl inside the lungs/nasal cavity, which causes local very low pH, causing tissue damage, but is this true and is there significant tissue damage? Is this a common occurrance with insufflated drugs?

It seems pretty clear to me that sharp crystalline drugs cause real damage, as evidenced in regular meth and cocaine users who often have pain in their noses and often have nosebleeds, but what about snorting pressed pills or powders?

Anyway, I'm sure that's too many questions for anyone to answer, but there is definitely a large void of information about the damage, both long and short term, from just the process of snorting, whereas all the information available seems to be about the dangers associated with the drug itself--its often increased bioavailability vs. oral ingestion, greater rate of increase of blood concentration of the drug, etc, but never the danger of snorting itself. Thanks in advance for any information anyone can offer, especially in the form of biomedical research, but even anecdotal evidence would be greatly appreciated.

Say know to drugs, your mind, and your body.
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Danger of snorting OXY?

what is the danger of snorting Oxy?
I read that it can damage the lungs?
how much worse is it then smoking?

also what other damage does snorting causes..
 
Smoking anything is bad for the lungs. Snorting will mess up your sinuses and various other stuff in your nose, but likely not your lungs. If I had to choose, I'd probably snort, even though I'm really not fond of putting stuff up my nose.

Specifics on the damage would depend on what fillers, binders, time release mechanisms and any other crap that might be in the pills. Anything other than eating or plugging is going to have a risk of injury or other problems, it just depends on the amount of risk you're willing to take to get high.
 
Don't snort oxy!!!!

It's more bio-available if taken orally! Snorting will make the high come on faster but also wear off much faster. Long term snorting pills will also damage the soft tissue in your nose which will affect your sense of smell and hence taste later on down the track.


Analgesic Expert Group. Therapeutic Guidelines: Analgesic. Version 4. Melbourne: Therapeutic Guidelines Ltd said:
Oxycodone can be administered orally, intranasally, via intravenous/intramuscular/subcutaneous injection or rectally. The bioavailability of oral administration of OxyContin averages 60–87%, with rectal administration yielding the same results; intranasal varies between individuals with a mean of 46%
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belarki said:
Don't snort oxy!!!!

It's more bio-available if taken orally! Snorting will make the high come on faster but also wear off much faster. Long term snorting pills will also damage the soft tissue in your nose which will affect your sense of smell and hence taste later on down the track.
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it gives me more control over the dosage compared to eating it
 
My boyfriend snorted oxy and other various substances for years, and now has a hole in his septum that whistles when he sleeps :\

Smoking it is by far worse for you, supposedly the high hits you quicker and is more intense (so I've heard).

Oxy in any form is bad news, the number of people I know who have OD'd and/or passed away from Oxy and the drugs it leads to is way too high for someone my age. Do yourself a favor and just don't do it.
 
theyre right about the bioavailability

before i begin, the danger of snorting oxy is, ITS EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE, EXTREMELY HABIT FORMING, AND TOLERANCE BUILDS VERY FAST!

believe me, i got carried into the game unexpectedly. i was a seasoned veteran of all drugs, and came across a supply of extremely cheap, readily available oc.

snorting it gets you high faster, for shorter duration, with less intense peaks. your nods will not be nearly as potent. when im really high on opiates, i get this feeling like my head and stomach are drifting apart, like im at the event horizon at a black hole, and its nauseous and good feeling at the same time. i dont get that feeling as strong when i insufflate it.

it only took me about two months of doing the shit every day to go from 20mg, to 40mg, to 80mg, to 150mg, to ... well soon i found myself doing 300mg a day. getting your body off that is a nightmare. not to mention the fentanyl, suboxone, oxymorphone, morphene, and heroin i also had access to, easily.

so the most dangerous aspect is addiction, believe me. tolerance builds so fast and then wham ur hooked.

shouldnt this be in the OD forum?
 
Be careful snorting Oxy especiallay in high doses as you are not taking it with the time release like you would orally and if you do not have a tolerance to opiates or take too much you can easily OD that way and won't know it until it's too late.
 
Damage to nasal passages...

I have used the search and only found some tips on how to make things a little better.

I have been snorting Wellbutrin (Bupropion) daily for over a year now, taking very small breaks once every couple months. You all may be wondering why I would choose to snort Wellbutrin, I personally find it to cause some slight euphoria, music enhancement, and stimulation (Its good for waking up quick in the morning). The past couple months I have only been doing 300mg of it once a day, but I have also recently snorted MXE and 2C-P last week. I have cuts inside my nose in both nostrils, roughly 1/4-1/2 inch long, I haven't been having nosebleeds except for one time when I had to blow out a dried booger. Also in my left nostril I have 2 white pimples next to the cut.

My question is if I stop snorting stuff now approximately how long will it take to heal up? I can handle the nose clogging and everything just fine, I go through tissues like crazy and it seems normal for me to do that to the people I live with. Is there anything I can do to help promote healing other than saline? I also have major sinus infection from snorting, which obviously isn't good.

Sorry, if there is a post similar to this that I haven't seen, if there is please post it. I'm just curious about this issue.
 
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