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Harm Reduction insert needle; little to no blood registers

blackjesus

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i've got a question concerning when i insert the needle into my vein in a place that used to register but now i get little to no blood at all from the area but i know im in a good location for an injection, im curious if im certain that im in the vein can i go ahead and shoot without it having registered?
 
You are pulling back on the plunger and no blood is coming in the barrel? There might be scar tissue on the tip on the needle after it pierces through it, which might be preventing the blood from going into it.

If you do decide to shoot without registering properly, do it very slowly, and if it burns, stop.
 
When you say a little blood enters the barrel, do you mean it looks like it's "leaking" or "creeping" in slowly, and only a little bit is coming in? If so does the blood look thicker than usual?

If that's the case it may be from a blood pressure or hydration issue. I would have that problem very often when in bad withdrawal.

If that's not what's happening, rotating to a different site is probably the next thing. Trying to shoot without registering properly can lead to a number of problems varying in seriousness.
 
I agree with Tommy, it sounds like you have scar tissue in that area from repeated injections. Also, the vein could be near collapsed, thus having blood flow thru that certain vein drastically reduced and thick, thus not being able to register. I would study a vein map and find a new spot to hit, there are many, many, other spots you can hit for sure.

Check out the following thread, it has hordes of quality information about IV techniques/complications:
Injection Complications FAQ and Mega Thread

I have a lot of IV experience so if you still cannot find what you need in there, feel free to private message me.
 
as others have said, sounds like a little bit of scar tissue on that spot. i would get comfortable shooting into a certain area and after a while id have the same problem, wouldnt be able to properly register. just had to switch up injection locations.
 
I would agree with the above posters. I've had similar issues & believe them to have been from scar tissue.
Well scar tissue &/or just having trashed that particular vein. A good example would be BP.
My left arm like most people I believe; had higher BP than my right on avg.
Now my left arm always has a much lower BP than my right which I attribute to having trashed a vein.
When I first started IV I wasn't as familiar & believe I wrecked 1 vein before getting more knowledgeable.
I believe the above issue is attributed to that. The vein I'm referring to also displays the behavior you speak of.
As such my assumption would be as the above posters, perhaps scar tissue. Try rotating sites.
 
Yeah, had those problems when I first began IV. Even now, my elbow veins(which I refer to as "old reliable") occasionally build a little scar tissue, in fact this post was ironic, because just today I used one(because apparently both stores I buy my works from enacted a "no junkies policy" last week, leaving me to temporarily have to reuse fucking rigs) and couldn't register. Of course, I knew I was in the vein so I just went on with the injection. But as Tommyboy said, if you inject without registering, make sure you do it slowly, and if there is any pain, pull out! More importantly, NEVER inject without a good register unless you are experienced enough to know for sure.
 
I have the SAME problem. If you run down your vein location, you'll feel (or at least I do) the vein goes down, the tissue is over the vein (from missing a shot, coke destroys my veins)..
 
Hi, i'm new here but been reading up and noticed there's a lot of worried posts on here. I've experienced a lot of mishaps along the way and have never ended up in ER or had an abscess etc. Just wanted to tell of some of my experiences to maybe put someone's mind at rest?

I must state, I am not advising anyone, I am not a doctor/professional, just an experienced IVDU.

Misses: IME, when you miss, it hurts. You know! I've ALWAYS blown up/bruised when I miss. Plus, the rush/taste/smell doesn't come!
Mostly my partner hits me as I'm a nightmare to hit but I can and have also done myself. If you are missing the vein, you can usually feel resistance on the plunger. It should flow in easily if you are in the vein. Try somewhere else. If there's blood in the pin, use it as quick as you can or it will congeal. Depends on your blood, some people's blood congeals quicker than others(me). You can re cook the hit. I always change syringe though.

Hitting a nerve: IME, when you hit a nerve, it really hurts, like a bee sting and you gotta get that needle out right away! Not had any lasting damage as I couldn't bear the needle to stay in, never mind shoot!

Hitting an artery: IME, It hurts! It doesn't hurt really bad like a miss but it feels weird, like you are getting a dead arm. I knew as the stuff was going in, both times that it was wrong!
I swelled up really bad, was bright red and really painful to touch. It was worse when I woke up next day. Really painful. I left it a day to see if it got any worse, deciding to get medical advice if it did, but fortunately it didn't. I just bruised really badly. It took about a week to recover.

Burning: IME, I live in the UK so we use Vit C or Citric Acid here to clean up our gear when we cook it up. If too much is used, it burns like hell. This also causes a rash which looks like a nettle sting. White lumps on a red backround. Usually around the injection site and it often travels up the vein and often itches quite a lot. It usually goes away after about 20-30 mins and is quite ugly but quite common.
Also, sometimes just hitting a small vein burns. Go slow on the plunger. I've often had to stop mid way through a hit to let the pain peak, then carry on and it goes away. There wasn't any lasting pain afterwards.

Numbness: IME, I have had small and quite large areas of my hand and arm go numb. Usually when I've hit a nerve but it has happened on a couple of occasions for no reason I'm aware of. It did not last longer than a day.

Rolling Veins: It helps me to use the thumb if you can, to rest against the vein on one side and approach it from the other so it has nowhere to go.

Generall, I feel discomfort/burning/slight swelling and slight bruising in any places I use, other than the big veins in the body. Like the crook of the elbow/Top of my arms/my groin(not recommended). My hands are particularly prone to swelling and bruising. Be very careful around your hands, there are a lot of nerves (I think I've found them all)!!!!!!

Itching: IME, this happens a lot and is a common symptom from Opiates. It also depends on the gear. Sometimes the itch is much stronger than others, particularly your nose.

Lumps and bumps: IME, I often get little lumps at the injection site. These are sometimes scarring (if you use the vein for a long time), plunging too quick, flushing or sometimes it just happens. As long as they are not painful, red and swollen, I find they do usually go away in time with no problems except feeling and sometimes looking a bit freaky!

Veins collapsing, unuseable: IME, after a while, particularly if not switching sites, my favourite veins have just seemed to stop yielding (which has felt like the end of the world at the time). This just happens. The vein has had enough and scarring builds up inside. It's not caused me any discomfort, it's just been inconvenient to me!!!


NEVER share needles, use clean everything, every time. I really believe this is the key to not getting infections/abscesses etc. Would you eat off the toilet? So why put your works there to cook up?
Know your body and know your limits. Don't hit alone. And never try hitting yourself till you have had someone experienced show you how/help you if they will.
Not trying to patronise anyone, just want to tell of my own experiences in the hope that someone can relate and maybe not panic/help. If in doubt, see a doctor or go to ER!!!!!!!!!!

Linz
 
It is possible that you went in too far, either due to the needle being too dull (naturally, or due to re-use which is not advised) or because the vein rolls, etc. You can always try pulling out a little.

I find some veins work better with a short or deep angle, sometimes coming in from the side, other times right on the top of the vein.
 
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