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Indifferent MDMA experience and concerns

manofice

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Hi all,

Im sorry this is such a long post - I just really wanted to include as much detail as I could!

I've taken drone twice before (probably only 0.5g each time with a gap of about 3 months in between) and the high was incredible. Although I felt a little depressed right after and had little cravings for a few days after I suffered no real ill effects. This was really my first experience of drugs and ever since I've been doing a great deal of research into MDMA. A friend and I could not track down any for love nor money but eventually managed to obtain some beautiful looking/smelling crystal. We had heard that MD blew the meph high out of the water and so decided to dedicate a night to its effects doing nothing more than sitting in my room listening to music and chatting. Words cannot describe how hyped we were.

We bombed about 0.1g each originally expecting to fly what with it being our first time. After a while we began to feel something but we weren't particularly impressed and actually feeling rather down having waited months and months to experience this. We decided to simply eat some more (probably about 0.05g) and I think at this point we started to 'come up'. We were enjoying the music and each other's company at this point which was fine, but this was hours into the evening and we were keen to nail this incredible euphoria we had read so much about. In hindsight I realise it was a silly idea, but we were obviously rolling a bit and decided to eat some more, tiny crystals and even snort a corner off of a credit card. We had no means of measuring what we took at the time. Needless to say although my memory of what happened is cloudy neither my mate nor I can say that we ever reached a point when we were thinking 'yes, the wait was worth it'. We tried to be very positive at the time so as to enhance each other's experiences but we never really clicked with it. I'm not entirely sure how much we consumed that night, but in the end it must have been pushing about 0.75g each (stupid, I know).

A week and a day later, although I wasn't hugely excited by the prospect I had another night on the stuff with a different friend who is much more experienced with this sort of thing (I had promised it to him and didn't want to let him down). I knew the method behind last week's festivities was nothing short of idiotic and so this time I bombed 0.15g, and then ate another 0.05g when I had 'come up'. I decided I would take NO MORE after this point and happily stuck to it. Throughout the night my friend said how incredible the MD was and how it was such a 'clean' roll and he'd never had anything like it which really threw me - I was expecting him to say that it was crap and I was a mug! This time we just played on a friend's Xbox and although it was nice and I was clenching my jaw a little - I was pretty chilled and could talk normally to people who weren't on the drug. Apparently I was being VERY polite, but not excessively 'loved up' or anything along those lines. Afterwards we watched a lot of music videos which I wasn't really interested in and finally went to bed.

So that's a run-down of what happened in terms of setting/dosage etc. There was about a week between use: a stupid amount the first night I can't even put a figure on, and a large (a GOOD 0.2g) but not ridiculous amount the second. I know I come across as a negative bastard in the above description but I'm really not, I was so excited about finally getting hold of some mandy and was determined to let nothing get in the way of it being incredible! I’ve just tried to be as accurate as possible. The fact I didn't have a GREAT time (I DID have a good time though!) isn't really what concerns me, it's more the change I've noticed in my mind since.

On the first night, even before we went totally OTT, I was really noticing my memory going to pot. For example, I put down my chewing gum in my bedroom, and absolutely COULD NOT find it for love nor money. Another example is sitting at the computer with purpose, then saying to my friend "WTF am I doing?". Putting together a point or trying to tell a short story was a mare. It would literally be a case of "blah blah... blah......... uhhhhhh.... What the hell am I saying?!" Then after we took some more we both (well if not both of us certainly I) started to drift away a bit when we were dancing - almost forgetting what was going on. I guess you could describe it as a trance. This continued for a while before we decided to call it a night. Oh I forgot to mention we must've consumed about 3-4 litres of Isotonic drink each throughout the course of the night!

The next day I didn't feel too bad. My mind was slightly clouded but it was a breath of fresh air compared to other comedowns and hangovers. It's the way I've been feeling after the second night that's worrying me a bit. In the morning I felt very slow. As when I took it a good 10-11 hours before, I had to try extremely hard just to make conversation without sounding like I had something wrong with me. I wasn't depressed as such, although far from pleased with the way my mind had become extremely clouded and I found it difficult to concentrate. In the 6 days since then the edge has been taken off my inability to get my words out, but for example tonight I was watching an advert or something that I found funny and was about to talk about with my house mate, when I completely forgot what had amused me and I had to rewind. I know this kind of thing happens from time to time but it's certainly been happening a lot more frequently recently and it's a bit concerning really.

I've never been the most articulate person even and often struggle to recall words from my vocabulary (thesaurus.com pretty much writes my essays!), and although I've always been a tad paranoid about pretty much everything this seems quite tangible.

I guess what I'd like to get out of this topic is a) whether anyone else has felt let down by MDMA after they'd hyped it up so much and b) whether I'm likely to have ruined my brain permanently in that week of indulgence. Not many people in the threads I’ve read have taken this much stuff of this purity in this short a time period.

Lastly, I guess a lot of people will say that it wasn't real MDMA. Obviously I can't prove that it is legit, but like I said I've spent a long time researching this and without going into much detail I'm 99% sure it was very pure crystal. Aside from this, my experienced friend from the second night was blown away by its appearance/smell/effects!

Any responses whatsoever would be amazing and I'd be massively grateful for any insight at all!
 
Out of curiosity, how much time elapsed between your last mephedrone use and your first MDMA experiment?

Also, it's recommended to wait at least a month between uses. I know that you didn't roll per se the first time, but I think it's still prudent to wait. I'm not going to doubt that you had pure product, although investing in a testing kit is a cheaper way to ensure that you do than blowing through a lot of MDMA in the hopes of finding out if it's real.

I will say that MDMA can be weird your first time. I was similarly let down my first time -- everyone else around me was rolling, but all I felt was this sense of expectation that eventually fizzled out. The second time (a good six months later), I "dropped and forgot", and was pleasantly surprised by the intensity of the experience. I think the key, especially if you find looking hard for a big change, is to let go and stop waiting for the drug. Loud music and being surrounded by friendly people are very good for this purpose, hint hint. :)

As for brain damage, you admittedly did take a huge dose, but people have done more over a longer period of time (e.g. years) without losing their minds. My tacit advice is to try your best to put it out of your mind as a temporary effect, then come back to it a month later and see if you don't feel better.

I really can't say why you didn't roll the first time. The memory lapses and confusion certainly do sound indicative of a large dose of MDMA, though. Again, wait a good long time (two to three months, maybe), and give it another shot. When you do it again, try to manage (or better, forget) your expectations, and take it before doing something that'd be fun with or without the help of MDMA. :)
 
Thanks very much for the reply RGB, much appreciated! It was pushing 3 months since the last mephedrone hit so everything should have been fine on that front. I'm definitely going to leave it at least a month or two before I try it again and this time hit a club or something along those lines :). Perhaps I didn't really get into it because I was thinking exclusively about the effects of the drug and what I was feeling? The two times I took mephedrone were on new years eve and at a Prodigy gig so I guess that could be why I think so highly of it?

The thing that's bugging me most though is being aware of the occasional cloudiness of my mind. I've got a trip to a big festival coming up soon followed by a 15k word thesis so I'll take your advice and try not to think about it too much between now and then and see how I am.

Excuse my ignorance but is there a common time period in which short-term effects tend to become recategorised as long term? I know the brain is a complex thing and different dosages will have different effects on different people but I suppose what I really want to know is whether these symptoms are relatively common even after the best part of a week or whether they're reserved for those who have made vegetables of themselves!

Thanks again!
 
The "brain fog" can last for up to a week for me. From what I've read of other people's experiences, this seems common. I've always found that it's the sort of thing that gets worse when I concentrate on it, so take that for what it's worth. 8)

I don't know if there's a specific amount of time, but I'd say if a month has gone by -- in which you've made a best effort to not concentrate on the negative effects -- and you still feel odd, you probably have grounds to worry. :\

Hopefully we can get some other responses in here so you have opinions to go off of other than my own, heh.
 
May I ask what country you are from? There is quite a lot of convincing looking fake crystal doing the rounds in Europe. Although proper MDMA has started to rear its lovely head again, there is still a lot of fake material about.
 
I'm from the UK. I have a picture. Would it be possible to post on here or is that pushing it?

Edit: of the MD - not me :p
 
I'm from the UK. I have a picture. Would it be possible to post on here or is that pushing it?

Edit: of the MD - not me :p

That's fine, although keep in mind it won't help us much if at all to determine its quality. The best way to identify MDMA is via a testing kit, available from EZtest.com or DanceSafe.org (I prefer EZtest.com myself, and it'd probably arrive faster from them since you're in the UK).

You really only need one of the three main tests (e.g. Marquis, Mandelin, or Mecke) since they all change color in the presence of MDxx, but having more of them will allow you to screen for other chemicals. Also, a testing kit won't tell you if it's pure MDMA, but it can at least confirm the presence of an MDxx compound (and if you get the Simons/Ropadope tests, allow you to differentiate between MDMA/MDEA and MDA).
 
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Any thoughts? It looks a little more white there than it was in the flesh. Like I said earlier I have reason to believe it was as good as you can get at the moment but I guess I've been wrong before...
 
I'll definitely look into a testing kit if I do it again in the future. I'm a real worrier as it is so i'm in not rush to get more of this down me! Thanks for all the help guys :)
 
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Any thoughts? It looks a little more white there than it was in the flesh. Like I said earlier I have reason to believe it was as good as you can get at the moment but I guess I've been wrong before...

Not that I am any Md expert or anything but England is notorious for pipes being sold as pure mdma, I think that you might have got ripped of my friend D: . Also your friend has no way of knowing that its legit without having a test kit. The after effects you describe defiantly sound similar to what I had after quite a hefty dose of pipes after a rave, being slow two days after, brain feeling slow, stuff like that. Also no worries I have gone on much bigger binges then what you did and I can say safely that 99 percent of the people on this form also have and were all still alive and kicking and brains are very much in tact ;D.
 
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