inability to get through H withdrawal.

[obliteration123]

1 baggie a day habit. my last batch was stronger than the one i have now so im going into WDs. i have about two days of use left. intranasal.

i have enough suboxone strips and my doc sent out a “couple of days of gaba” upon request. havent checked how much yet.

i have the option to go overseas tomorrow to a rigid 3 month rehabilitation program where theyll pump me full of oxy and xanax to knock me out and stave off symptoms. i know because ive been there for 9 months before.

is this my best bet? i have no access to any strong sleeping aids. the worst part for me is the inability to get comfortable, minutes feeling like hours, and the constant bath taking i have to do to convince myself out of suicide.

i initially went back after a year of sobriety in an attempt to die. i cant believe the street shit hasnt killed me. what purpose could possibly be keeping me on this earth.

 

[WellTram]

Well...do u want to stop ? If yes, prepare for 14 days of hell. Use benzos, gaba, clonidine and tizanidine, something for nausea. U Can try weed because it Is good for sleep, nausea and little bit reinforcing. Prepare acetaminophen and nsaids. Drink water, u need to eat but little bit is ok. Hot baths help on days 2-7. Even amphetamines work but i dont recomend it. Also buy some dxm and immodium. U will want to sleep as much as possible.

 

[trevic]

The guy above me seems much more knowledgable than me about medications to help than me, but I think I can relate to this post in the sense that you seem to fear the mental health aspect of withdrawal the most.

When I got off the gear from a two year IV habit I just used some benzos and my GP gave me some sleeping pills on request. I felt like complete and utter dogshit and the physical side sucked. What was worst for me though was the cold, hollow depression. The feeling like I’ll never be okay again and I feared I’d commit suicide. For me I did it at my Dad’s house so that helped me massively feeling supported, I couldn’t have done it alone — do you have a good support network?

Anyway, If you have the option to go to a rehab then I would take it? I’m a little confused by the pumping full of oxy to stave off symptoms, I would think they’d taper you down on methadone or subs? That was the go to at the rehab I went to (not dependent on anything the two times I went though so wasn’t on this, both times I arrived in an ambulance from a hospital alcohol detox) Is this place your talking about a rehab? If it is at least you’d be around people experiencing some version of the same thing even if it’s other drugs, you’d have support, and you’d probably feel safer mentally in terms of the suicidal ideation you’ve expressed knowing that support is right there if you need it.

If you do it alone, the guy above me seems much better poised to advice on that. I think if I got dependent again now I’d use benzos to sooth the anxiety (I’d have panic attacks in withdrawal), pregabs to help with the mood and ask my doctor for some cyclizine. Obviously don’t stack all these things on top of each other recklessly though since they’ll all potentiate each other. Personally when I withdrew I didn’t like weed cause I found it made me hyper focus on aches which made them worse in my mind but it may be a good option for some, especially for the antiemetic effect.

 

[WellTram]

I was declined substitution teraphy because of co-dependence on benzos. They charged me 100euro and sent me home to somehow kick it by myself. Benzos were legitimely prescribed.

 

[Keif' Richards]

If you really want to stop, then you're going to have to do detox at some point, in some way.

There will be pain. I am unaware of any quest for sobriety that doesn't entail physical and mental pain. I know it's corny, but these hardships are the crucible in which we are forged into better people.

You can certainly mitigate some of the pain. Acute withdrawal can be made easier. You still have to cope with long term struggles though.

Eventually you're going to end up having to face your life without your Opioids. You will experience pain, rejection, boredom, depression and you will need to decide if you can make it through without Opioids.

The withdrawal protocol is only part of the quest. You will need to be able to abstain no matter what life throws at you.

If you ever want to talk, you know where to find me.

I spent a large part or my life believing that I was the only real person in my life. I had accepted that life was miserable, all people were liars, true love was a possibility, but in practice, like winning the lottery.

I was smart because i accepted these things, told the world fuck it and took the reins of my own happiness. Everyone who didn't use Opioids were foolish. I knew that life was not worth living without Opioids.

I have a different outlook on life now. My relationship with Heroin started when I was 15. Opioids were with me as I became an adult. Everything I knew about the world was understood through the lens of Opioids.

You have to have a mental shift. You have to want something. You need to want a different life. For me, it was love, both Romantic and Platonic. I realized that love was what I was looking for.

Think about what you want. You need to have a reason.

 

[Direwolf131]

If you really want to stop, then you're going to have to do detox at some point, in some way.

There will be pain. I am unaware of any quest for sobriety that doesn't entail physical and mental pain. I know it's corny, but these hardships are the crucible in which we are forged into better people.

You can certainly mitigate some of the pain. Acute withdrawal can be made easier. You still have to cope with long term struggles though.

Eventually you're going to end up having to face your life without your Opioids. You will experience pain, rejection, boredom, depression and you will need to decide if you can make it through without Opioids.

The withdrawal protocol is only part of the quest. You will need to be able to abstain no matter what life throws at you.

If you ever want to talk, you know where to find me.

I spent a large part or my life believing that I was the only real person in my life. I had accepted that life was miserable, all people were liars, true love was a possibility, but in practice, like winning the lottery.

I was smart because i accepted these things, told the world fuck it and took the reins of my own happiness. Everyone who didn't use Opioids were foolish. I knew that life was not worth living without Opioids.

I have a different outlook on life now. My relationship with Heroin started when I was 15. Opioids were with me as I became an adult. Everything I knew about the world was understood through the lens of Opioids.

You have to have a mental shift. You have to want something. You need to want a different life. For me, it was love, both Romantic and Platonic. I realized that love was what I was looking for.

Think about what you want. You need to have a reason.

This is a great post, I have absolutely nothing to add other than don't count out Jesus!

 

[Survival0200]

You have to have a mental shift. You have to want something. You need to want a different life. For me, it was love, both Romantic and Platonic. I realized that love was what I was looking for.

How do I find love? I have a girlfriend, but I don't think I really love her.

 

[BK38]

How do I find love? I have a girlfriend, but I don't think I really love her.

Use tinder if you're looking to move on without your gf, workout, self-development, be a provider and care for one another. Make sure it's quid pro quo in your relationship. Anyways,this prob belongs in the SLR forum.