in what order should i combine my psychedelics over a long weekend?

[dan k]

so next week im going to a 4 day event i enjoy mixing psychedelics for an extended trip but sometimes by the end of the weekend i end up with a massive tolerance and even eating 5+ tabs does hardly anything beyond a body buzz..



i have marquis, mandelin, and ehrlich reagents so i know all of the substances i will be consuming will be legit.

i have access to a couple swiss paper(roughly 200+micrograms), an abundance of white on whites (95ug lsd), 6 green question marks (120-180mgs mdma), a gram of 4-aco-dmt, a gram of 5-meo-mipt, some 1mg tabs of 25c-nbome(probably wont touch these), i will be on the lookout for ketamine, n,n-dmt, lsz, al-lad, doX, and 2cb

i have experience with all these substances except any of the doX family and lsz


i was thinking maybe starting the first day out with a couple WoW tabs(say 150-190ug), then maybe 2 or three hours in try 15-20mg of 4-aco-dmt and some ketamine and see how that goes, maybe add a half of a question mark if i get board or lazy. ill try to get some sleep the first night.

the second day will probably start out with ketamine and some 5-meo-mipt(small, frequent re-doses) then a question mark as it gets later, some 2c-b if i can find it followed by a few more chunks of question marks and k through the night..

i doubt ill sleep that night so ill probably double drop the swiss paper once everyone wakes up on saturday and eat another piece of WoW(or lsz or al-lad if i can find it) add some k here and there, then at some point drop some 5meo-mipt and 4-aco-dmt at the same time.. and i would love to smoke some dmt late night/early morning sunday then probably just do dabs(thc oil) all sunday to level back out.



is there any combinations that i should try that i didnt mention?
is there any combinations i should avoid?
how about alcohol? i like to drink a little, not to get wasted but to loose a little inhibition. is there any specific times i should indulge or avoid?
is there any times i should not smoke dank to feel the true effects or should i blaze the whole weekend?
is there anything supplement or diet wise that i should be doing to ensure a quick and easy recovery after the weekend?

bump for the night owls.

 

[bronson]

Moving this BDD --> PD

 

[Solipsis]

Uhm, the more of a comedown a drug has, the later I would use it. Other than that most drugs you mention should synergize favorably although I would try to keep 5-MeO-MiPT, DOX and MDMA all apart from each other since there might be overstimulation and exacerbated stim-related side-effects.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

WoW tabs(say 150-190ug), then maybe 2 or three hours in try 15-20mg of 4-aco-dmt and some ketamine and see how that goes, maybe add a half of a question mark if i get board or lazy

Jeez, if you can present enough with that to be bored, I don't think there's anything we can say. You'd be too hard-headed for what qualifies as reasonable advice for the average person, 'cause I wouldn't advise that sorta thing in public, not by a long shot. Sometimes less is more.

how about alcohol? i like to drink a little, not to get wasted but to loose a little inhibition. is there any specific times i should indulge or avoid?
is there any times i should not smoke dank to feel the true effects or should i blaze the whole weekend?

And you want to take up booze and herb to boot? Save the gross combo-intoxication for when you're at home. I mean, that's not to say you can't do it, 'cause you can, just be prudent.

Anyhow, keep tolerance in mind, the bigger you go on any day, the more limited normally equivalent doses would be on the subsequent days (here's where potentiators can come in handy).

 

[kingme]

hmm... you do know this is excessive abuse right?

in any case,
what i would do is keep things separate. as in not try to go from trip to trip to trip to roll on the same day. concentrate on each experience at a time. that way you should be feeling more and wasting less. there is little room to redose psychedelics ime
there should be other fun things to do there on this weekend but drugs, surely.
if not so, why not just do a type of substance a day? trip on day 1, roll on second and drink and smoke on 3rd...

 

[Penthos]

I don't get how people can redose psychs so close together. The one time I tried to redose with acid I took 8 hits (2 the night prior) and felt jack shit. EXTREMELY mild body buzz.

 

[kingme]

some drugs do work when redosed, but its overall thought to be inefficient and unsatisfying
tryptamines and acid are most affected by tolerance and crosstolerance, in my case

 

[dan k]

i guess ill probably just stick to rollin the first day(150-250mgs mdma)
lucy on friday (maybe 200-500 mics)
and the 5-meo and 4-aco combo on saturday
and just dab and drink on sunday

sorry for the overconfidence guys, i just really like the place im going and feel very comfortable there.
it is also going to get quite cold this weekend and have always noticed a drop in effect when feeling cold.

what are some potentiators for these chems?

 

[kingme]

dude, youre not listening to solipsis on this one
if you do mdma first you ll be on the comedown during th rest of your trip and not feel too happy about it.
in fact, id probably do it exactly in reverse order... leaving the roll for last.

i still think this is excessive though.
i dont think you ll need a lot of potentiatiors at the amounts you re planning, and you must be aware that harder trips are more likely to give worse side effects, which can include vasoconstriction (common with psychedelics, especially 2cs and DOx), something you dont want when out in the cold...

 

[dan k]

good point about the vasoconstriction, i hate that shit..
k then i will probably save the rolls for saturday night.
how about the 4-aco-dmt and 5-meo-mipt combo? maybe i should just cut out the mipt and dip my finger every now and then into say 30-40mgs 4-aco-dmt so i get roughly 5-10mgs at a time on thursday?

 

[atara]

Shit, it's been a long time since I've gone to a festival. Brings back memories...

I'd probably put the moxy/4-AcO-DMT on Thursday, but I'd keep the AcO dosage low -- no more than 15-20 mg total -- and let the moxy sort of rule the experience. Mostly that's because getting into the festival always involves a stupid long wait and then I'm tired, moxy is a stimulant, so yeah, and keep the AcO low so that on Friday you can drop lots of acid, you seem to have that part figured out. Saturday I'd probably take ketamine to wake up in the morning because lol you just tripped really hard and then I'd roll that night, maybe throw a little 4-AcO on top for good measure because why not? Sunday take whatever just don't hurt yourself and make sure someone can drive by the end. I wouldn't expect to trip much on Sunday, if anything that's the time to drink, but again don't get too fucked up to drive.

The last time I went to a festival it was something like this, but I rolled on Thursday. Rolling both Thursday and Saturday was actually okay, but I wouldn't recommend it because the best set is usually on Saturday and you probably want to be in the best mood possible at the time, so doing moxy instead makes sense.

 

[dan k]

its actually a pretty small intimate event in a familiar place.
no longer than a 30 min wait to get in if your unlucky..
i also do not have to drive there or back.

so my new tentative plan is

10-15mg mipt and 10-15mg aco thursday
200-500 mics lsd friday morning (might drink a bottle of homemade wine this day)
k-hole in a hammock saturday morning to get to sleep
20mgs aco saturday afternoon and 150-200mgs mdma as it gets later mixed with some k here and there
and sunday just get drunk and do dabs, maybe the rest of the k

 

[mongos]

Why not better decide on how you feel on those days?

 

[GreenMachine]

if i plan on going hard for a weekend, i always take it easy the first night, assuming four days. i try to do a lighter mushroom, 4-AcO or 2C trip. definitely try to get some sleep that first night. sleep pays off in dividends later on in the weekend. i usually just dose up on good L after the first night and have one night of hard candflipping, usually the most raging night of a fest. if i had 2C-B i would switch that out of the L and take the ecstasy with that.

however when i try to plan out how i am going to do drugs over the course of a weekend, it always ends up going completely differently. feel it out, decide what you are going to do when you wake up see how things are going--set and setting and all.