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iMessage encryption trips up FED surveillance

MemphisX3

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While it's not about drugs I believe it's an important and interesting article many who visit Bluelight will be interested in. Slimvictor or 23536 could you guys post some of the article? I would but I am on my phone ATM and it's a pain in the ass.

http://m.cnet.com/news/apples-imessage-encryption-trips-up-feds-surveillance/57577887


In short the iMessage encryption is so good that the DEA can not obtain a large majority of the messages and is pressuring apple to change the format. apparently the DEA has also began pressuring other companies with similar services not to fight a bill they are trying to pass that will make it easier for them to eavesdrop on people.
 
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Here is some of the article

Apple's iMessage encryption trips up feds' surveillance
April 4, 2013 | Declan McCullagh, Jennifer Van Grove
Internal document from the Drug Enforcement Administration complains that messages sent with Apple's encrypted chat service are "impossible to intercept," even with a warrant.


The DEA is not happy about Apple's iMessage transmissions, which it says are "considered encrypted communication and cannot be intercepted."
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Encryption used in Apple's iMessage chat service has stymied attempts by federal drug enforcement agents to eavesdrop on suspects' conversations, an internal government document reveals.

An internal Drug Enforcement Administration document seen by CNET discusses a February 2013 criminal investigation and warns that because of the use of encryption, "it is impossible to intercept iMessages between two Apple devices" even with a court order approved by a federal judge.

The DEA's warning, marked "law enforcement sensitive," is the most detailed example to date of the technological obstacles -- FBI director Robert Mueller has called it the "Going Dark" problem -- that police face when attempting to conduct court-authorized surveillance on non-traditional forms of communication.


Excerpt from an iMessage "Intelligence Note" prepared by the Drug Enforcement Administration and obtained by CNET. Click for larger image.
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When Apple's iMessage was announced in mid-2011, Cupertino said it would use "secure end-to-end encryption." It quickly became the most popular encrypted chat program in history: Apple CEO Tim Cook said last fall that 300 billion messages have been sent so far, which are transmitted through the Internet rather than as more costly SMS messages carried by wireless providers.

A spokeswoman for the DEA declined to comment on iMessage and encryption. Apple also declined to comment.

The DEA's "Intelligence Note" says that iMessage came to the attention of the agency's San Jose, Calif., office as agents were drafting a request for a court order to perform real-time electronic surveillance under Title III of the Federal Wiretap Act. They discovered that records of text messages already obtained from Verizon Wireless were incomplete because the target of the investigation used iMessage: "It became apparent that not all text messages were being captured."

This echoes what other law enforcement agencies have been telling politicians on Capitol Hill for years. Last May, CNET reported that the FBI has quietly asked Web companies not to oppose a law that would levy new wiretap requirements on social-networking Web sites and providers of VoIP, instant messaging, and Web e-mail. During an appearance two weeks later at a Senate hearing, the FBI's Mueller confirmed that the bureau is pushing for "some form of legislation."

Andrew Weissmann, the FBI's general counsel, said last month at an American Bar Association event that enacting a new law to amend a 1994 law called the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act is a "top priority" this year. CALEA requires telecommunications providers to build in backdoors for easier surveillance, but does not apply to Internet companies, which are required to provide technical assistance instead.

What's difficult, Weissmann said, "is trying to come up with the fairest and most sort of narrowly tailored means to do this." He added: "We don't want to have a system where you're needlessly imposing burdens on thriving industries or even budding industries... So what the bureau has been spending quite a bit of time on, and certainly has as a top priority this year, is coming up with a proposal with other members of the intelligence community that tries to balance all of that. That does tackle the problem of trying to modernize where we were from 1994, given how much technology has advanced."
 
This is exactly what I would publish if I were the DEA and I had found out a way to break iMessage encryption.

Big Government: No, really, your communications are still secure. Trust us on that.
 
^good call.



a long time ago a buddy of mine used xbox live to send messages of this sort. At the time xbox live was relatively new and he had the argument that whoever ran the messaging system would never give the DEA permission to eavesdrop had the DEA thought about his method. I know my buddy quickly abandoned the method because only some of his customers used xbox live etc.
 
Please, continue to use Xbox Live and iMessage to send your drug dealing messages. They are 100% secure and not monitored by law enforcement. I can assure you of this.
 
Law enforcement monitors a large majority of our daily lives, hardly any way around it. If I were in a position that I needed to worry about such a subject I wouldn't put my worry into their monitoring but rather how they obtained it and how I can fight it in court.
 
If they are having this much trouble simply obtaining said messages imagine the awesome time they are having convincing a judge to allow the messages and how they obtained them outside the encryption
 
I am in no position to be worrying about FEDS monitoring my communications.
 
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