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worriedcheeeo

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im not sure how many posts like this there is on this website, i hope im not beating a dead horse with this post. but i know people here are very knowledgeable so i wanted to ask a few things.
first some background:
i am 21 years old, i was introduced to E when i was 19. in the year of 2010 i used ecstasy almost every week. i sometimes would drop 4-5 pills a night, not at the same time (which ive only recently read had no effect at all.) overall ive taken about 100+ pills over the course of 2010. i hardly got a hang over effect, or depression, or anything that felt serious. i think the last couple of times i did start getting this twitch after dropping that would go away over the next few days. the only real complaint i have is tolerance.
the last time i dropped i took 3 pills at one time to feel anything and the feeling really only lasted about 2 hours and wore off quickly.
the last time i took ecstasy was dec. 25th 2010. and since i havent felt depressed, i havent felt down, unmotivated, i havent felt like my memory is shot, or like ive lost any cognitive skills.
i wanted to drop for an april 13th show, and i was thinking if i ever drop after that that i will space out my rolls by months.

ok.. so here are my questions:
i was wondering if my tolerance would have lowered in those 4 months? does tolerance lower at all?

2. if tolerance lowers can i ever get it back to what it was like before i ever dropped?

2. ive heard heavy use can damage serotonin receptors, is that damage permanent? will i never feel a good roll again, but instead a bunch of weak ones?

3. have i permanently damaged anything of myself or can i recover?

thanks everyone for reading this far, and thank you even more if you can help me out.
 
If you haven't noticed any bad comedown aspects from rolling then why are you asking if you're permanently damaged?
 
RandomGuy123 said:
If you haven't noticed any bad comedown aspects from rolling then why are you asking if you're permanently damaged?
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ive just heard that its possible.
most of my worries revolve around tolerance. if my tolerance doesnt go down, does that not mean something has been damaged and is irreversable?
 
worriedcheeeo said:
i was wondering if my tolerance would have lowered in those 4 months? does tolerance lower at all?

2. if tolerance lowers can i ever get it back to what it was like before i ever dropped?

2. ive heard heavy use can damage serotonin receptors, is that damage permanent? will i never feel a good roll again, but instead a bunch of weak ones?

3. have i permanently damaged anything of myself or can i recover?

thanks everyone for reading this far, and thank you even more if you can help me out.
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-1 tolerence level will take months to lower...you have damaged your brain and now you have to heal it.

-yes

-yes
 
yes your tolerance has lowered. by how much? idk everyone is different. will ever go back like befor? its possible but im guessing a longer break is needed and it seems like Pricetam helps bring back the magic. you need time for your serotonin to get back to normal along with repair to the axons.

eat healthy, take vitamins and minerals. exercise your body and brain. magnesium may also help with lowering tolerance. if your gonna eat pills like that get a test kit! they are life savers
 
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worriedcheeeo said:
im not sure how many posts like this there is on this website, i hope im not beating a dead horse with this post. but i know people here are very knowledgeable so i wanted to ask a few things.
first some background:
i am 21 years old, i was introduced to E when i was 19. in the year of 2010 i used ecstasy almost every week. i sometimes would drop 4-5 pills a night, not at the same time (which ive only recently read had no effect at all.) overall ive taken about 100+ pills over the course of 2010. i hardly got a hang over effect, or depression, or anything that felt serious. i think the last couple of times i did start getting this twitch after dropping that would go away over the next few days. the only real complaint i have is tolerance.
the last time i dropped i took 3 pills at one time to feel anything and the feeling really only lasted about 2 hours and wore off quickly.
the last time i took ecstasy was dec. 25th 2010. and since i havent felt depressed, i havent felt down, unmotivated, i havent felt like my memory is shot, or like ive lost any cognitive skills.
i wanted to drop for an april 13th show, and i was thinking if i ever drop after that that i will space out my rolls by months.

ok.. so here are my questions:
i was wondering if my tolerance would have lowered in those 4 months? does tolerance lower at all?

2. if tolerance lowers can i ever get it back to what it was like before i ever dropped?

2. ive heard heavy use can damage serotonin receptors, is that damage permanent? will i never feel a good roll again, but instead a bunch of weak ones?

3. have i permanently damaged anything of myself or can i recover?

thanks everyone for reading this far, and thank you even more if you can help me out.
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Ok umm I just gotta say, if you're not feelin' any side effects, you need to relearn to count.
1. I seriously doubt that your tolerance will go down to what it was before... you did some heavy abusing...

2. Some of that damage is permanent. You've fried your brain pretty well at this point.

3. You've damaged something, and it's gonna catch up to you at some point.



I'm a little concerned with the fact that all you seem to be worried about is getting your tolerance down....I bet that will change when you start getting brain zaps...

Stay safe man.. Take a break. Draw pictures or something and quit doin drugs for a little bit.
 
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Ok umm I just gotta say, if you're not feelin' any side effects, you need to relearn to count.
1. I seriously doubt that your tolerance will go down to what it was before... you did some heavy abusing...

2. Some of that damage is permanent. You've fried your brain pretty well at this point.

3. You've damaged something, and it's gonna catch up to you at some point.



I'm a little concerned with the fact that all you seem to be worried about is getting your tolerance down....I bet that will change when you start getting brain zaps...

Stay safe man.. Take a break. Draw pictures or something and quit doin drugs for a little bit.
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Finally some good advice from a moderator, its good to see this in the mdma forum. Your pretty much the first moderator ive seen actually recognized and state that mdma can fry your brain if you do it to much, and permanently.

On another note occasional use is likely reversible, abuse is not.

Your done with MDMA at this point, take some good advice and switch drugs.
 
well thanks for all the advice guys.
that piracetam sound interesting ill read a little more into that.
yeah i dont think im entirely fried at all, i dont have any kind of the side effects that most of the people who are fried have. also i can take a pill and feel something even if its short, my tolerance just built up a lot lately. another thing id like to add is that i did the research on the amount of pills ive taken, its actually in the vicinity of 70-80 pills. lower than i thought.

im not entirely shutting down to answers, id like to hear more if anyone else has something to add!
 
I havent done E since 2008 but I was doing it alot, pretty much every weekend sometimes 4-5 times a week for 8-9 months and probably consumed 150-200 pills EASY if not more. I still struggle with depression, anxiety/social anxiety, change in personality, etc and Its been 2-3 years, and nothing has changed. But i've also been doing opiates everyday since I quit E which probably isnt helping my brain recover.

But when you experience the brain zaps like Thizz said it will scare the shit out of you when you first experience it and if you keep doing MDMA it will fuck up your brain. Consider yourself lucky with the amount of pills you have done and havent noticed any side effects from it. Like others have said stop messing around with the MDMA and move onto something else or just quit drugs all together, because it WILL fuck your brain up, just a matter of time.
 
Yea it seems some of the moderators are counterproductive not always giving the full facts like thizzlam just did. You don't tell someone umm herp go exercise take vitamins and eat healthy...herp you'll be better in no time. Thats twaddle advice, real advice is to say you have fucked up some receptors and transporters, and axon terminals. Stay the fuck away from mdma for a long long time, as well as take fishoils, 5htp, multi vitamins, and other supplements.
Also this may sound like bad advice , but yea switch drugs. Almost any other drug is a better choice than mdma when it comes to damage, just manage your use it honestly isn't that hard.
 
F1n1shed said:
Yea it seems some of the moderators are counterproductive not always giving the full facts like thizzlam just did. You don't tell someone umm herp go exercise take vitamins and eat healthy...herp you'll be better in no time. Thats twaddle advice, real advice is to say you have fucked up some receptors and transporters, and axon terminals. Stay the fuck away from mdma for a long long time, as well as take fishoils, 5htp, multi vitamins, and other supplements.
Also this may sound like bad advice , but yea switch drugs. Almost any other drug is a better choice than mdma when it comes to damage, just manage your use it honestly isn't that hard.
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I'm a little confused as to how thizzlam provided any "facts". All he did was say "you've fried your brain pretty well at this point" and some other vague terminology (such as "you've damaged something". Is that a technical term?) for what is, in reality, quite a complex issue. Other moderators are helpful in that they suggest vitamins, exercise, healthy dieting, etc. as a method of recovery. They never suggest that you will "be fine in no time". The full effect of the OP's use on his brain is not known by any of you, and saying something like "you've fried your brain" should actually be pretty embarrassing in an objective discussion.

You seem to think you're an authority on this topic, so can you tell me what "you have fucked up some receptors and transporters, and axon terminals" means? Objectively please. I want you to describe to me, in your professional opinion, what that means in terms of the OP's recovery and cognitive future. Also if you don't mind, could you clue me in on the extent of the "fucked up"-edness of his "receptors and transporters, and axon terminals" based on the background information he provided? Thanks.
 
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shiznik said:
I'm a little confused as to how thizzlam provided any "facts". All he did was say "you've fried your brain pretty well at this point" and some other vague terminology (Such as "you've damaged something". Is that a technical term?) for what is, in reality, quite a complex issue. Other moderators are helpful in that they suggest vitamins, exercise, healthy dieting, etc. as a method of recovery. They never suggest that you will "be fine in no time". The full effect of the OP's use on his brain is not known by any of you, and saying something like "you've fried your brain" should actually be pretty embarrassing in an objective discussion.

You seem to think you're an authority on this topic, so can you tell me what "you have fucked up some receptors and transporters, and axon terminals" means? Objectively please. I want you to describe to me, in your professional opinion, what that means in terms of the OP's recovery and cognitive future. Also if you don't mind, could you clue me in on the extent of the "fucked up"-edness of his "receptors and transporters, and axon terminals" based on the background information he provided? Thanks.
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I would like to know the same thing? Time is the best way to heal your brain but supplements, vitamins, food, and exercise all contribute too. If you roll every weekend and don't force yourself to eat healthy or take the right steps to help recover, then of course you "could" have serious problems. I've rolled every weekend for 2 months straight awhile back and I don't have any listed issues. I do take 5htp, l-dopa, egcg, exercise, and eat healthy, non processed foods. I can honestly say, the only problems I've had is the next day of being a little tired. Not depressed, brain zaps, or any other symptom that people list.
 
^^^ You can generally keep up those kind of rolling habits in the beginning months, but the longer you use, the more likely it is that you will begin to feel the psychological wrath that is MDMA abuse. Also, it's my experience that it is the worst when you first stop. I would strongly recommend a break for you, before it's too late.

That said, I also don't agree with the blanket statement "you have fried your brain". The truth is, we are not doctors and there isn't a person on here who can tell you what you have done to your brain. IME your brain is fine, but your serotonin levels are dangerously low and unstable. You need to take a nice long break and things should return to normal again for you.
 
If you are posting on here about being worried then you already have your answers. If you are to the point where you don't know if you should or you feel your body starting to act differently, then you need a break. Although, some people find this forum comforting to know that they aren't the only one that's been through this stage.
 
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