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I'm the only one in existence. All of you people are projections of my mind

-=SS=- said:
Also I'd be careful trusting entities my friend. They have a distinct advantage over you, namely that you can't see them and what their real intentions are. You're a fish swimming in an ocean.. there's sharks out there. We are only the top of the food chain in this physical dimension on earth.
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That's true, I used to have over 500 living in my energy field for some reason. After I stopped taking drugs most seem to have lost interest. I often used to feel a lot of dark energy around me and I don't remember them doing me any favours.
 
these are all basic questions addressed in philosophy 101... and basically the only thing you can know for sure is that i think therefore i am....
 
these are all basic questions addressed in philosophy 101... and basically the only thing you can know for sure is that i think therefore i am....
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That is the single most over-quoted philosophical statement of all time, to the point that I roll my eyes whenever I hear it.
It has no bearing on whether or not I am / you are / we are the same consciousness.

While these concepts are touched on - briefly - in Philosophy 101, they aren't explored in sufficient depth.
The questions have yet to be answered.
 
ForEverAfter said:
That is the single most over-quoted philosophical statement of all time, to the point that I roll my eyes whenever I hear it.
It has no bearing on whether or not I am / you are / we are the same consciousness.

While these concepts are touched on - briefly - in Philosophy 101, they aren't explored in sufficient depth.
The questions have yet to be answered.
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yes it is very cliche to say it but to delve into it and truely understand what it means is something different... and yea all phil 101 briefly touches on the biggest ideas not all of them in depth thats why its a 100 level class lol and the mere nature of these questions can never be answered... but in the end wether everything is as it appears or im just a brain in a jar being controlled by a mad scientist or sitting in a mental ward muttering to myself i am thinking, therefore i know at the very least i exsist
 
ForEverAfter said:
Grumpy Smurf says:
"I HATE tertiary Philosophy classes."
*Groan*
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Ha....
Smurf philosophy-
Everything is Smurfy

lol my professor said something very similar the first day of class and i was like wtf really?? but yea that shit isnt sooo easy
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N.k.- If somehow u can manage to get your brain around it will dissapear when you try to explain it.
 
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Mysterie said:
this is my fav erowid report which addresses some of the big questions that trippers may start to ask, who may have become disillusioned and disassociated with reality.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=88620
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Mastering the Core Teachings of Buddha has to be the most terible way to gain insight from a Buddhist perspective. Instead of the typical 'joyful path' towards liberation from dukkha, you just cycle through dukkha for months.
 
Hmm, some comments i read here kinda remind me of a story i read not to long ago. Basically, a guy dies and goes to the afterlife and meets god. The afterlife is completely empty and he inquires about this. God explains when you die you stop in there for a while and then you reincarnate. The guy ask who he's going to be reborn as and gid tells him he's going to be reborn as a female peasant in ancient china. The guy is from modern times and is confused as to how he'll reincarnate in a time before he was born. God tells him time is just an illusion and that he can reincarnate at any point in "time". The guy points out that this means he could have meet an incarnation of himself and god confirms that he has many times. I forget how the conversation goes from there but it ends up that everybody on earth is the same person reincarnating over and over again. The same soul in 7 billion bodies plus everyone that had died before and everybody that is yet to be born. Everybody that you've ever been rude or cruel too, that was you in a different life. Everybody that you've been nice and generous too, also you. Jesus? Buddha? Ghengis Khan? Hitler? The people Khan and Hitler killed? You. One soul living billions of lives moving to the point where it becomes a being like god. Think about that. :D
 
Crashing said:
And somewhere deep in here lies the truth, fellow selves.
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viridarius said:
Hmm, some comments i read here kinda remind me of a story i read not to long ago. Basically, a guy dies and goes to the afterlife and meets god. The afterlife is completely empty and he inquires about this. God explains when you die you stop in there for a while and then you reincarnate. The guy ask who he's going to be reborn as and gid tells him he's going to be reborn as a female peasant in ancient china. The guy is from modern times and is confused as to how he'll reincarnate in a time before he was born. God tells him time is just an illusion and that he can reincarnate at any point in "time". The guy points out that this means he could have meet an incarnation of himself and god confirms that he has many times. I forget how the conversation goes from there but it ends up that everybody on earth is the same person reincarnating over and over again. The same soul in 7 billion bodies plus everyone that had died before and everybody that is yet to be born. Everybody that you've ever been rude or cruel too, that was you in a different life. Everybody that you've been nice and generous too, also you. Jesus? Buddha? Ghengis Khan? Hitler? The people Khan and Hitler killed? You. One soul living billions of lives moving to the point where it becomes a being like god. Think about that. :D
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A friend who forwarded me this story some time ago said she got it off 4chan, of all places.

But I think there's truth to it, or that it's one way of telling the truth.

Though I'd add to it. Suppose you do / have reincarnate(d) as every human who ever lived and will ever live. In this thought experiment, the next logical step is: Why stop with humans? What about all the insects? The birds? The lizards? But only those. Not the echidnas and the snakes and the monkeys too.

No, wait...

... THOSE TOO. And then every other living thing as well. Down to lifeforms we can't perceive and forms of consciousness we don't even recognise. The collective will of planets and stars. Planes of reality in directions we humans can't imagine. States eternally hellish and transcendentally heavenly. All of it. Suppose the entire universe is in fact a process. A process analogous to what we call birth.

The birth of what? Of you.

What that means exactly, you'll have to keep going to find out. It seems there's no other way. See you all on the other side.
 
Flickering said:
A friend who forwarded me this story some time ago said she got it off 4chan, of all places.

But I think there's truth to it, or that it's one way of telling the truth.

Though I'd add to it. Suppose you do / have reincarnate(d) as every human who ever lived and will ever live. In this thought experiment, the next logical step is: Why stop with humans? What about all the insects? The birds? The lizards? But only those. Not the echidnas and the snakes and the monkeys too.

No, wait...

... THOSE TOO. And then every other living thing as well. Down to lifeforms we can't perceive and forms of consciousness we don't even recognise. The collective will of planets and stars. Planes of reality in directions we humans can't imagine. States eternally hellish and transcendentally heavenly. All of it. Suppose the entire universe is in fact a process. A process analogous to what we call birth.
The birth of what? Of you.

What that means exactly, you'll have to keep going to find out. It seems there's no other way. See you all on the other side.
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To quote a wise man, "you just broke my mind".
 
Flickering said:
A friend who forwarded me this story some time ago said she got it off 4chan, of all places.

But I think there's truth to it, or that it's one way of telling the truth.

Though I'd add to it. Suppose you do / have reincarnate(d) as every human who ever lived and will ever live. In this thought experiment, the next logical step is: Why stop with humans? What about all the insects? The birds? The lizards? But only those. Not the echidnas and the snakes and the monkeys too.

No, wait...

... THOSE TOO. And then every other living thing as well. Down to lifeforms we can't perceive and forms of consciousness we don't even recognise. The collective will of planets and stars. Planes of reality in directions we humans can't imagine. States eternally hellish and transcendentally heavenly. All of it. Suppose the entire universe is in fact a process. A process analogous to what we call birth.
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What about processes, like one having existed as the force of gravity or methane precipitation on Pluto? Or having existed as a photon, or a black hole or a slight temperature increase?

As a sidenote, I was stoned last night and thinking about the multiverse theory, and felt my brain wander down the exact same path as your post; in an infinite multiverse, 'you' would have existed as everything possible ever. I find it odd that we had such similar thoughts at a very similar time. 8o :D

But then, if we have existed in every form that is conceivable, I wonder if a paradox arises if one insisted that, in at least one universe/incarnation and as a single facet of this infinite experiential possibility, they must not have existed.
 
That story sounds like one big hypothesis on human existence. I mean, what the hell is it based on? It offers more questions than answers, and comes off as a duct tape kind of rationalization.

It ignores the future, and also ignores the individuality of humans and one's potential to change the world in a way that no other living organism can. I argue that not all of us have that potential, in fact it's super rare. One person cannot embody all of humanity, similar to how one person is not representative of a country.

I get it though. The story seems more like a metaphor than anything else. In a sense, yeah we're all humans 1 through 7 billion, which is not even counting the billions more in the past and especially the future. (In fact, this reminds me of the mathematically-derived concept that there is really no such thing as infinite, not even PI, but that there are very very large numbers).

And yes, in totality, each one of us are 99.99% similar to each other. But the story infers that you are you, me, the peasant in Rome as well as its King, the astronaut in Tomorrowland and the bum in Greenland, the President of each and every country, etc...that's just too far fetched for me to buy. Even 0.01% can make a difference, just ask your loan consultant.

Then what am I? Same thing? I am me, you, etc. Am I my dog too? How about all the cells, bacteria, algae...?

This story would be more fitting and hilarious once human cloning becomes real and practical hundred(s) of years from now. Then you can definitely say "I am you." :) (Hurry up stem cell research!)

And yeah, I'm on one again.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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