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Hello lovely people. I'm new on here and am looking for some advice please. I am addicted to smoking heroin and am at the edge of losing everything. I'm smoking between 4 and 6 bags a day.
I have this Sunday to the following Monday booked off work and am planning to stop/rattle it out. I have some pregabalin tablets given to me from a friend and he tells me they are supposed to help withdrawal symptoms but have no idea if I should take them. Or how many and how often. I literally have 7/8 days to get over the worst of it before I'm back in work. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thank you
 
For the pregabalin dosage I have no idea as I've never used it. But in general I'd advise you to have on hand : loperamide (for the shits), domperidone (anti-nausea), electrolyte powder (because you'll be sweating like a racehorse and losing fluids), a sedative (to help with the anxiety / restlessness). Also a non-opiate painkiller to take the edge off the joint aches.
 
Hello lovely people. I'm new on here and am looking for some advice please. I am addicted to smoking heroin and am at the edge of losing everything. I'm smoking between 4 and 6 bags a day.
I have this Sunday to the following Monday booked off work and am planning to stop/rattle it out. I have some pregabalin tablets given to me from a friend and he tells me they are supposed to help withdrawal symptoms but have no idea if I should take them. Or how many and how often. I literally have 7/8 days to get over the worst of it before I'm back in work. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thank you
Hey for anyone here to truly help you were gonna need a little more info.
1.) Do you know the total net weight you use not just how many bags. If so please share.
2.) Do take into mind this will can and is a also abusive substance and enhances and the effects of most downers and opiates. This can synergise in a worse addiction or of course accidental OD, but it is certainly a method to use when not on the opiates or our as it is a great withdrawal mitigatory however many swear by duo combining 2 substances such as throwing a benzo in there not that i suggest or condone it.
3.) We are gonna need to know what the dosage is of these tablets how many you have may also help. And are they tablets or capsules?
Finally pregabalin (lyrica) and gabapentin are both noted for this use however i find most prefer pregabalin and it is more potent and they are not exactly the exact same class of drugs while close and almost interchangeable for certain medical usage.
 
Hey for anyone here to truly help you were gonna need a little more info.
1.) Do you know the total net weight you use not just how many bags. If so please share.
2.) Do take into mind this will can and is a also abusive substance and enhances and the effects of most downers and opiates. This can synergise in a worse addiction or of course accidental OD, but it is certainly a method to use when not on the opiates or our as it is a great withdrawal mitigatory however many swear by duo combining 2 substances such as throwing a benzo in there not that i suggest or condone it.
3.) We are gonna need to know what the dosage is of these tablets how many you have may also help. And are they tablets or capsules?
Finally pregabalin (lyrica) and gabapentin are both noted for this use however i find most prefer pregabalin and it is more potent and they are not exactly the exact same class of drugs while close and almost interchangeable for certain medical usage.
Hey, thanks for the reply. They are actually methocarbamol which is all I could get. My last use will be tomorrow morning before work so 5am then thinking to take 1st capsule once I feel.ropey or when home probably 10 hours or so later. would you suggest waiting longer so as not to mix them.and the heroin? Weight of the bags??? Hmmm god knows, quite small.... say 10 or so lines on the foil.....dosage is 750mg by the way. Thanks
 
Thank you mate! Did it 26 years ago but relapsed 18 months ago but habit is far worse this time! Last chance saloon as well for many things... financially and family wise! Has to be done and I'm shitting myself! Got zopiclone, these pregab things and tons co codamol and that's it! Skint as well so they got to work!!
 
Thank you mate! Did it 26 years ago but relapsed 18 months ago but habit is far worse this time! Last chance saloon as well for many things... financially and family wise! Has to be done and I'm shitting myself! Got zopiclone, these pregab things and tons co codamol and that's it! Skint as well so they got to work!!

Dw. The thing I've found most helpful in the past is, you need to kinda play a little mental trick on yourself, fox yourself. What makes going though WD so damn difficult is the certain knowledge that if you JUST take a little something of the stuff the lack of which has sent you into WD in the first place, then not only will you feel instantly better, but you will feel great.

... Well, no such magical instant cure exists for regular physical ailments. So, when I start the process, I push out of my mind as much as possible this knowledge of the instant cure. Instead I deliberately adopt the mindset of someone suffering a genuine illness, where you can alleviate the symptoms, but you know you'll basically just have to resign yourself to feeling like shit until the worst of the illness is past. Think of it like some viral infection, resign yourself to just having to suffer through the discomfort like you would with that, and I promise that'll really help you push through it.
 
If you can't afford electrolyte sachets, here's how to make a solution at home.

Bring 1 litre of water to the boil. Dissolve in it 1 tsp of salt, 6 tsp of sugar and 1 tsp of bicarbonate of soda (this ingredient is optional but helps the absorption of the other two). Sip on it throughout the day as you feel thirsty. Also I recommend having some pure orange juice (not from concentrate). Vit C is beneficial for your body during this.
 
Hello Jitter, i'm fairly new here and arrived with problems.
I had to go into diaz cold turkey, 30mg daily for around three years.
I got lots of ideas and help in other ways, i had a really rough 3-4 months before i could reinstate my usage (dodgy supply caused it) i had meant to taper at somepoint but you know how it is.

I can't help with opiates sorry as they're not my DOC, but there will be some very knowledgable people reply to this thread as you have seen, so definatley keep coming back, post new threads and keep in touch.

I wish you an easy time as you can possibly manage.

Have faith in yourself and remember the goal and imagine the pride you will have....in just a couple of weeks time.

Take care.
 
PS I would not advise taking Zopiclone WITH pregabalin. These meds will exacerbate each other's side-effects. They are also both used in WD for their more general anti-anxiolytic properties. Decide on one and stick to that.
Ahhh really?? Was going to use both as well. Would the pregabs help sleeplessness or not do you know?
 
Ahhh really?? Was going to use both as well. Would the pregabs help sleeplessness or not do you know?

Pregabalin seems to be used to help induce sleep, also as an anti-convulsant (ie to prevent seizures, which is why it is used in the treatment of alcohol and benzodizepine WD predominantly). But it has been used successfully to mitigate opioid WD as well
 
I'd say try the recommended dose of pregabalin and only top it up with the Zopiclone if you are still extremely uncomfortable

PS zopiclone is the one mostly used to help insomnia.
 
Hey apologies for going MIA for a day or two there, really need to sort out using BL on my phone more.
Ahhh really?? Was going to use both as well. Would the pregabs help sleeplessness or not do you know?
Yes for sure as far as sleep goes it may not be a knock out pill depending on withdrawal level personal sensitivity to it all and of course dosage, however you must take into account Gabapentin and Pregabalin are notorious for quickly within like a week of steady usage dropping off quickly with sustained regular use. Not so much the medicinal side of the nerve pain relief it can provide but as far as sedation and a high goes it can quickly waver many have experienced and said and personally I experience the same. Do note this does not work on the Gaba system despite not being a benzo and being a structural analog of GABA, its quite similar in feeling many have reported, yet experienced users can definitely tell some differences. Some explain its feeling as a cross fade between opiates n benzos. As for the Zopiclone never had it and don't know if its available here but have heard nothing but positive stories towards helping withdrawals, Zopiclone does as far as I'm aware work on Gaba.
Asked a mate with experience ; he says take 150 mg in the mornings and another 150 in the afternoon for WD relief.
300MG Capsule Lyricas are the biggest you get here in Australia, and in my prime of being an Idiot I did take up to 1200-1500MG at a time and on top of opiates, benzos and occasionally alcohol or all of it. Personally didn't wanna take more than 900-1200 at a time but it was truely a magical synergy with opiates so you want to avoid mixing the 2 outside of withdrawal management.

That being said under 300-600mg a day is certainly going to be where you want to aim to avoid withdrawal from both your DOC and the replacement substance(s) you decide to use, in this case Lyrica. If you are taking above 300mg taper quickly to 300, 150mg twice a day as previously suggested by UltimateFixx above. For a heavy withdrawal if the relief just isn't doing it, and you decide to go above 300mg a day, do not do this for more than at MOST 3 days on the 4th day you must be on or below 300mg or your risking just trading withdrawals here. To be completely honest as a rule of thumb, chemical hooks start to set in about 3 days into continued usage and exposure, however I am basing this off my personal experience which is heavily subjective.
Try ceasing use as soon as possible if you don't need a long term taper. If you were there's better substances for such a goal however, its still achievable with what you have.

GENUINELY I wouldn't suggest going as high as I have, quickly you can take the same 1200-1500mg dosage and feel genuinely as if you took nothing, and before experiencing any withdrawals from ceasing use, unless THC can solo and completely remove that withdrawal and I highly doubt that was it. There is truly no medicinal value or purpose in such a dosage whatsoever for what your at least are hoping to use it for. At a certain dosage and of most replacement therapy substances, whatever you may be using. (Personally iv never felt a withdrawal from Lyrica its self but never used more than 5 days at a time before id use up what i had). While I cant provide more personal experience on a Lyrica hook or withdrawal ill tell you right now I'm sure they can be just as gnarly for some. That being said the suggestion of 150 twice a day is a excellent starting point.

How's it been going and how is everything! As for Sleep if your going to use it for both withdrawal fending and sleep you may quickly find it runs its usefulness course to you on the sleep end and sedating you. On a final note If possible and available to you THC and cannabis is a very comfortable way to get through withdrawals and iv personally use nothing but weed and will power to cut some of my heaviest addictions. I understand this is very fucking gnarly and not many want to or will do it, however I think there is a understated power of THC to really help, even if its on top of the main anti abuse medication you may take or replacement substance etc, tends to have the ability to all mix decently with weed in my experience.
 
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If you can't afford electrolyte sachets, here's how to make a solution at home.

Bring 1 litre of water to the boil. Dissolve in it 1 tsp of salt, 6 tsp of sugar and 1 tsp of bicarbonate of soda (this ingredient is optional but helps the absorption of the other two). Sip on it throughout the day as you feel thirsty. Also I recommend having some pure orange juice (not from concentrate). Vit C is beneficial for your body during this.
This seems helpful for many things. Recipe is appreciated.
 
Thank you pal. Battled it out Saturday night with bits of sleep but last night was full on so had a 750mg pregab and it knocked me right out and slept all night. I'm rattling now but a bit spaced out off the pregab still.
 
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