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If you have Tar don't Slam it, Plug it!

Dr.DOB

Dr.DOB

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I've been plugging H a lot more frequently than smoking it or slamming it and its so much better. The only bad parts about it is that it can hurt going in if you don't modify your syringe correctly, you have to take a shower right before administration, and its not a social way to do it. Other than that though its extremely potent, fast onset, long duration, and not as bad for you as IVing, plus it doesn't mess up your lungs compared to chasing the dragon. Last night I got 350mg of tar for $50 and I loaded up a modsyringe with only 45mg and I lubed it up and slipped it in and squirted it all in there. I felt the rush after about 60 seconds and was nodding for about four hours afterwards. I'm a huge huge stoner (I even get lit on the toilet) and I was so pinned that I couldn't even smoke, I could barely keep my eyes open. I wound up having a really passionate intense sexcapade session until the sunrose, both me and my partners genitals are inflamed from their overuse. Anyways I thought I would share about my plugging infatuation. I used to smoke off foil and it was so inefficient and foul tasting I just couldn't keep up that administration habit, and slamming a thick goo isn't my cup of tea either. If you have china white then yes go for IV, but if all you have is tar, plugging is the only way to roll.
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hmmmm....cool...but IV is always best for efficiency, but plugging is pretty damn close to IV.
 
Plugging is far safer than IVing, not only less risky but there is less internal damage as well.
 
Dr.DOB said:
Plugging is far safer than IVing, not only less risky but there is less internal damage as well.
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True. I wonder if someone who is opioid/opiate dependent who shits say every other day would get better effects from plugging when he/she just had shat. Since plugging when you have turds packed in there would impair the absorption of the opioid/opiate "juice" , also i would guess the turds themselves could possibly absorb some of the juice themselves?
 
I never felt any affects of plugging anything, but when I used H I used via IV. sorry man, plugging just doesn't do it for me. and strangely enough, the thought of sticking something in my arm is a lot more pleasant than sticking something up my bum. but alas, BLers love plugging for some reason. if it works for you, and you like to stick things in your bum - so be it. but don't think we should all stop IVing tar and do it your way or the highway. please
 
But it isn't IV. Plugging isn't IV, the rush isn't even comparable.
 
axl blaze said:
I never felt any affects of plugging anything, but when I used H I used via IV. sorry man, plugging just doesn't do it for me. and strangely enough, the thought of sticking something in my arm is a lot more pleasant than sticking something up my bum. but alas, BLers love plugging for some reason. if it works for you, and you like to stick things in your bum - so be it. but don't think we should all stop IVing tar and do it your way or the highway. please
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You must not be doing it right then because plugging is just as strong as IVing just more stretched out, meaning longer onset, longer duration, and less intensity
But dude I highly suggest you stop IVing tar its so bad for you, plug if you care
 
Why not just get an oral syringe, or just use a regular syringe and pull out the needle with pliers?

The only times I have plugged I literally just wiggled the needle back n forth until it broke off, ran my finger over the syringe to make sure there was no needle left to hurt my arse, and plugged away.

Your broken syringe looks like it would hurt more than the options I just listed.

Kurrupt said:
Stop biting your nails.
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I lol'd. Biting your nails is a dirty habit. You should stick to shooting drugs up your butt.
 
Why take a shower before plugging? That's not necessary. As the guy above me said, the broken rig doesn't look too pleasant. The first rig I ever plugged with which I used for probably 6 months or a year with various drugs was one just like that except the needle was detachable. I recommend getting one with a detachable needle or just wiggling the needle out (be careful of course). Unfortunately I lost that rig and have since used an oral syringe that the pharmacy gave me for free. Works fine but I prefer the kind you have because it's longer and thinner so it's less uncomfortable and works better for plugging because you want to get the liquid as far in as possible.

If it hurts going in, use some kind of lubricant. I use canola or peanut oil, any cooking oil works fine. If done correctly there is zero pain and very little discomfort. But yeah, I always advocate plugging tar over any other ROA, because it's much better then any other ROA. I actually find plugging to be pretty much the best ROA for almost any drug. I plug or eat almost every drug I do (the only drugs I do often that I don't plug or eat are weed and tobacco).
 
I like plugging, I think its a great effective way to get opiates into your system. But I'm a daily opiate user and frequently constipated so plugging doesn't always work. On days when I'm lucky enough to take a dump, I'll plug my dose. Actually about 90% of my usual oral dose, so it saves me some pills too. I've tried to plug before and couldn't even push the plunger. No room up there I guess, I was pushing hard to and didn't wanna do any damage so I aborted! Never plugged H, would like to try. Just got some China White though and don't wanna do anything but shoot it. I just don't think I'll ever be able to get it again, unless I go to Eastcoast for some reason.

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BTW I have those same rigs. Just grab the needle with needle-nose pliers and pull it out slowly. It will come out pretty clean with no sharp edges. I do this when I wanna snort tar solution.
 
Doesn't nasal heroin have a higher BA than plugging? I read in some study that more heroin and 6-MAM was detected in blood samples after snorting. It said plugging is subject to more metabolism.
 
Really not sure. But the BA for plugging morphine is so high, I imagine its similar for dope being its just acelated (sp?) morphine. Plugging morphine is probably my favorite opiate high, so I think I should definitely try plugging some dope. Dilaudid IVs are great too, but only for 20 minutes or so. And I've only had it at the doctor so they just give me 1mg at a time until I seem comfortable. I usually end up getting 3-4mgs, but spread apart into 4 shots. I wish I could just tell the doc I wanna good rush, just shoot me up with 8mg please! I really would like to try Opana IV, never even seen it though.
 
arthunter888 said:
Doesn't nasal heroin have a higher BA than plugging? I read in some study that more heroin and 6-MAM was detected in blood samples after snorting. It said plugging is subject to more metabolism.
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I've read studies that said the same thing about morphine, I'm not sure about heroin. Here's the thing though, in my experience, and the experience of literally everyone I know who's tried both methods agrees that plugging is better.

My theory is that the studies didn't take into account how full the subject's bowels were. If your bowels are full then plugging won't work very well.

Both methods bypass first pass metabolism I believe.
 
Dr.DOB said:
You must not be doing it right then because plugging is just as strong as IVing just more stretched out, meaning longer onset, longer duration, and less intensity
But dude I highly suggest you stop IVing tar its so bad for you, plug if you care
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how can it be just as stong as IVing if its more "stretched out?"

That doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying sniffing is the same as eating it just takes longer to hit you.

The whole point of IVing is an intense rush, the drugs rapidly entering your bloodstream. There is no way in HELL plugging is the same thing.


Plus if your an opiate addict how are you supposed to plug shit when you are constantly constipated?
 
psychomimetic said:
I've read studies that said the same thing about morphine, I'm not sure about heroin. Here's the thing though, in my experience, and the experience of literally everyone I know who's tried both methods agrees that plugging is better.

My theory is that the studies didn't take into account how full the subject's bowels were. If your bowels are full then plugging won't work very well.

Both methods bypass first pass metabolism I believe.
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That's interesting. I can understand this would apply to morphine, but heroin has the extra acetyl groups that are amazingly lipophilic, which would make snorting (in theory) just as good as rectal with quicker onset (assuming most is NOT swallowed by drip). Well anyway, here's the article, the intranasal and rectal analysis is on page 5...

http://www.bentham.org/ccp/samples/ccp1-1/Rook.pdf

Routes of Administration: "Considerable peak plasma concentrations of heroin and a fast absorption rate were established after intranasal application (snorting) or inhalation in the lungs... because of its lipophilicity and low ionisation grade at physiological pH, heroin is rapidly absorbed through the mucous membranes... the first pass effecdt by the liver is avoided in these routes of administration."

"When heroin was administered orally or rectally, no heroin or 6-monoacetylmorphine could be detected in plasma... Probably hydrolysis of heroin into morphine occurred under the alkaline condition of the duodenum and colon before absorption. Moreover, heroin could be subject of the first pass effect by esterases in the liver."

Next is some ambiguity regarding what was said previously about rectal absorption...

"The first pass mechanism by the liver is avoided to a high extent after application of a heroin suppository, resulting in a lower M3G/morphine ration after rectal administration than after oral administration of heroin. Scores on euphoria were significantly higher after rectal application than after an equal oral heroin dose."

The inconsistency between the second and third quoted parts confuses me about what is actually being said. Can anyone understand this?
 
Plugging liquid done

I've been iving liquid for over a year now can shoot eight hundred mills no bullshit 20 ml syringe with a 20 gauge a time but recently discovered plugging from your posts. Anybody tried liquid done? Any opinions would help before I decide to attempt... Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.....
 
arthunter888 said:
That's interesting. I can understand this would apply to morphine, but heroin has the extra acetyl groups that are amazingly lipophilic, which would make snorting (in theory) just as good as rectal with quicker onset (assuming most is NOT swallowed by drip). Well anyway, here's the article, the intranasal and rectal analysis is on page 5...

http://www.bentham.org/ccp/samples/ccp1-1/Rook.pdf

Routes of Administration: "Considerable peak plasma concentrations of heroin and a fast absorption rate were established after intranasal application (snorting) or inhalation in the lungs... because of its lipophilicity and low ionisation grade at physiological pH, heroin is rapidly absorbed through the mucous membranes... the first pass effecdt by the liver is avoided in these routes of administration."

"When heroin was administered orally or rectally, no heroin or 6-monoacetylmorphine could be detected in plasma... Probably hydrolysis of heroin into morphine occurred under the alkaline condition of the duodenum and colon before absorption. Moreover, heroin could be subject of the first pass effect by esterases in the liver."

Next is some ambiguity regarding what was said previously about rectal absorption...

"The first pass mechanism by the liver is avoided to a high extent after application of a heroin suppository, resulting in a lower M3G/morphine ration after rectal administration than after oral administration of heroin. Scores on euphoria were significantly higher after rectal application than after an equal oral heroin dose."

The inconsistency between the second and third quoted parts confuses me about what is actually being said. Can anyone understand this?
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yea the first paragraph says if taken orally or RECTALLY no heroin or 6-mono-whatever could be detected in plasma. and then the second one says much higher absorbtion raters were achieved with a suppository. Did they not put the suppository up the rectum?
 
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