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If I had to tell you how much fun I've had taking drugs..

You're likely to find a lot of people that will beleive you on here @Ismene2

Although I don't get the same ejoyment out of psychedelics that you do, the amount of pleasure that other substances like GBL, Kratom, Odt, Mephedrone, amphetamines etc have given me, I can very easily believe it.
 
Nas47 said:
well...i know,but u probably young......later u must pay with a very high rate
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I'm ancient nas - didnt even start taking drugs till i was 30 so i can keep taking them till im 90 and still be fit as a fiddle
 
Hmm the piper, or prehaps the fiddler in your case, does usually expect payment.

Do you recall making a deal with a mysterious spirit or two whilst in the depth of a k hole? Always good to consult some sort of spirit guide before agreeing terms with these things. If you don't have a spirit guide then any lawyer worth their salt will know their way round a ouija board and should be able to keep you crispy.

On a side note taking drugs can get you in trouble and damage trust, I personally prefer it when people ask and ideally offer to pay for them. Just my 2c's, if its working for you then maybe i need to let loose a little an stop stickling about.

If you could take just 2 drugs from the age of 85 what would you choose?

Probably ketamine and cannabis edibles would be the ones for me.

Much loves
 
depends on the drugs and fun, could be sustanainable, could be a disaster in the works, serious introspection is the way to the answer.
 
cdin said:
depends on the drugs and fun, could be sustanainable, could be a disaster in the works, serious introspection is the way to the answer.
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This is a good suggestion. Which drugs at what doses would be the most appropriate for such an activity? Also duration/number of sessions? Do you think the answer will be obvious to the person seeking or more of an intervention scenario from a neighbour?

Hiring an arbitrator, or multiple depending on budget/experience required, might be a good shout. They're making these kind of decisions day in day out, I'd imagine. It might take a while but can't hurt to see if you can get on the nhs waiting list for one. Alternatively grab a few students under the premise of bolstering their portfolio, as well as any scrapings from whatever falls out the snooty.
 
It seems it's possible to hire scientists on an hourly rate.

With a bit of funding we could accomplish anything... But first:

The project: an app contains a database, or possibly some complex ai brain model since thsts whats in atm, keeping track of neuro transmitters levels, seratonin, dopamine etc. The user can input what drugs they are using in real time, or depending on how far into the future we are atm a lil device that can measure directly and alert the user when they've sufficiently recharged.

It could give suggestions, ie "good morning psychonauty69, today you can smoke half a gram of crack and a 3 wiffs of amyl nitrate and still have 50% dopamine remaining. You can eat 13mg diazepam in the next 24 hours without risk of withdrawal." optional electric shock and knockout dose of quintiepine for ignoring the advice.

Cost of scientists seems to vary, not sure if they bring their own lab etc. If anyone has interviewing experience or question suggestions feel free to share. Slightly mad/misunderstood scientists get the best results if TV is to be believed but could be challenging to work with.

A Gofundme flufffed up with ill informed aspirations and timeliness could be the way to go, if anyone has any spare change? Grant application could also get some cash flowing. Would need to spend a portion of any investment on various chemicals for testing ofc, as well as paid volunteers.
 
Wee, potentially obvious, disclaimer; I'm "testing" some cocaine and if this nonsense is a nuisance please do ask me to buzz off, or edit to promote your fav charity etc.

Anything stronger than "buzz" is rude and will hurt my, and possibly the collective mental health of anyone that reads it and will be reported. Not worth it.

Positive vibrations bzzz
 
Ismene2 said:
I'm ancient nas - didnt even start taking drugs till i was 30 so i can keep taking them till im 90 and still be fit as a fiddle
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be well and use and enjoy till 90 ma friend...me personally don;t know at all-will i see the sun the next day....
 
Had?

50 + too ;) @Ismene2, and had is in the imagionated past. Have fun in the now. Especially in these glory day's of drugs and knowledge.

And assuring more Bluelighters are reaching the age when little farts of revelations randomly start. And harm reduction has become like a second skin. 40 years to go, well lets assume so, and I am a wise old lad. Still taking drugs and energetic as ...
 
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F.U.B.A.R. said:
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Gravers :), UK drug consumption always amazes me. But good too know age limits have changed from the exception, to why stop something that makes you feel good based on your age.

What did change for me: i can party like a beast sober and get high as a kite (on the right music!), my mental and physical condition is imo pretty good atm, and dancing is a work out. Makes you stronger while having a good night with friend and strangers. Win win situation

The drugs are now taken seperate, at home these days always alone. The doses got reasonable/ no more binging and taken with breaks following harm reduction rules.
 
Ismene2 said:
I'm ancient nas - didnt even start taking drugs till i was 30 so i can keep taking them till im 90 and still be fit as a fiddle
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That is simply not true. Try not to spread crap like this around, I know you know it isn't true.. but think of the children lol...

To the OP -- I would basically say I have so much fun I don't even feel like im living in the same world as the sobers. Almost like we exist on different dimensional planes or something. One is not better than the other IMO. Well I know which one I belong in.

more tangibly most of the fun in my life has been derived from 1. Life Achievements/Experiences supported by unconditional love 2. Drugs. (also a pretty independent variable)
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
That is simply not true. Try not to spread crap like this around, I know you know it isn't true.. but think of the children lol...

To the OP -- I would basically say I have so much fun I don't even feel like im living in the same world as the sobers. Almost like we exist on different dimensional planes or something. One is not better than the other IMO. Well I know which one I belong in.

more tangibly most of the fun in my life has been derived from 1. Life Achievements/Experiences supported by unconditional love 2. Drugs. (also a pretty independent variable)
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Well a fit as paddle parent doesn't sound to bad for kids. Its an assumption to assume its simply not true. Never saw a elderly climb a tree?
Run marathons or have an exceptionally developed ammount of wisdom. Should I go on.

Its crap when your parent is a upper, downer, painkiller or any addict. But I see no harm in responseable use of psychedelics and empathogens, no matter the goal. Recreation or for self exploration, it stimulates neuroplasticity.

Going to the movie tomorow with my kid, so its not like the responseabilitys towards them dont matter any more. Might just be the opposit.
Costed me quite some effort, which will be more then worth it. They are what ao lites the fire in me.

Edit: the movie choice was mine but my kid wanted to tag along, freedom of choice. The movie/ documantery "Bob Marley, One Love" an avid Cannabis user with a big seemingly lovely family and kids.
 
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Ismene2 said:
I'm ancient nas - didnt even start taking drugs till i was 30 so i can keep taking them till im 90 and still be fit as a fiddle
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"taking drugs" leaves a very wide spectrum from "You can shoot meth everyday between 30-90 and be fit as a fiddle"

To "You can dabble in pyschedelic's and marijuana between 30 and 90 and be fit as a fiddle"

I may have lacked a bit of context but im not sure. In general I would think "taking drugs" for 60 years will lead to SOME physical problems for MOST people. It is very nuanced and I know most of us here understand that...but in the name of harm reduction and whatnot I would disagree with that statement as put.

*edit* of course I have seen elderly people that are still fit and used drugs there whole life basically! Have you never seen anyone that it hasn't turned out that way for? You are pointing to the exceptions rather than the 'rule'. Not with wisdom. The elderly are THE source for wisdom. (I don't feel wisdom can be attained through reading only attained through experience.) Knowledge, theory, academics; Books are great. But if you want real wisdom you need someone who experienced. Idk just how I feel, sure it doesn't line up with webster.
 
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