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If God does exist.

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How would you know?

Nothing to add, thought it was an interesting question.

n.b. I put this up as the other side of the coin to the thread 'If God doesn't exist'. I've only just registered and went straight to this forum and have to say it's got to me one of the best forums on the internet imo.
 
And if god does exist... Could he create a stone so heavy he couldn't lift it? Just blew your mind didnt I?
 
atara said:
Or, more importantly, suppose a deity [deva?] were to communicate with us, should we trust it? After all, is our apparent respect for gods anything but culturally-informed bias?
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That's a great point, I've never thought of it that way before.

I guess it's the same thing as children and their parents. From the moment you're born to the time you're 18 - you have no choice but to trust your parents. I guess god is the same thing. We have no choice but to trust him/her/it.
 
I could tell you but you wouldn't believe me. People have been telling everybody else for years that God exists, as well as filling you in on the details of exactly how they know;

but, until you know you don't know, you know?
 
No one knows. That's the fucking point. Or maybe 'God' does exist and our individual (and collective, perhaps) ego's are such that we can not recognise God. Maybe God is in everything we see, feel, smell, touch, and hear. Maybe I'm God, maybe you are. Maybe God is that feeling you get when you stare into your partner's eyes and she (or he) looks straight back at you, into you. Maybe it's the feeling you get when you are wrapped up in a hug that you wish was never ending.

One thing I do know, God isn't easy to find.
 
welcome to bluelight :)

one could only know of the existence of a "god", however they define that term, if they were to choose to interpret the gaps in their knowledge with such a force, instead of void or chaos. this could also come about from a brain dysfunction, a delusion mental, drug hallucination and/or another mental illness too, so how certain you can be depends on the person.

people tend to simplify their world views in order to have some semblance of a complete image (and control), and whether that be god or not, the more certain they portray their choice, it seems to indicate a greater need of that completion. to me that simplification is intentional falsification. because of this, the more certain a theist or atheist tends to be, the less their opinions mean to me.

we do this simplification with all sorts of things. but certainty for the sake of comfort comes at the expense of truth, which is far more complex than we tend to like to think.

what makes people think that an unfathomable concept like a deity can be cleanly placed into concepts we do understand like existence or non-existence?
 
The two can't co-exist in the same universe. So a god would restrict itself to playing by the rules of the game and not be able to lift an immovable object or stop and unstoppable force.

I know I exist and that I am aware.
I think I know that a=a and various axioms like ab=ba a+b=b+a and a(bc)=(ab)c so I'm pretty confident that mathematics is true.
Not sure if anything can be known outside of direct experience.
Not even sure that God exists as primary since it is a concept that presupposes awareness of concepts. Maybe that is why supposedly enlightened people remind ignoramuses like myself to stop conceptualizing.

Edit: Oh how stupid of me. If God existed it would simply allow a form of knowledge that was as absolute as a=a. But how?
 
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God does not exist.

He only exists as a concept or story or a belief in our minds and hearts.
 
the_Owl said:
God does not exist.

He only exists as a concept or story or a belief in our minds and hearts.
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It could also be argued that 'God' is a metaphor for all that is, as opposed to 'Satan' which would be the polar opposite - all that isn't.

Alternatively, 'God' could refer to the concept of human thought - as in the very fact that we, collectively as people, have the ability to think. I'm too stoned to properly explain this, but like, maybe we are all collectively God.

*Reaches for hash and rizla*
 
Again, what's a god? In some sense, an explanation in terms of "god" basically declares, "I cannot understand which underlies this phenomenon, so it must be 'caused by a thing I call 'god'; god is simply a placeholder for that which lies beyond intelligibility (but which conditions the emergence of intelligibility of phenomena in the first place).

Is "god" definitionally mystical? Does the above mysticism imply a "god"?

ebola
 
Even if a hypothetically being presented its self to us claiming to be a god/goddess how do you know it's just not some highly advanced life form that is either A. lying to us or B. falsely believes its self to be some sort of all knowing being.
If you die and meet God how do you know it's not just the effects of your brain shutting down and it only seems like you just spent 10 million years hanging out with angels or what ever your concept of a higher power is and the afterlife is.

Even if we find out for sure there is a god of some sort that still leaves a billion other questions about existence left unanswered.
 
Unless questions just become nullified upon meeting. The fundamental "question" not able to coexist with the base nothing/everything?

Multiple "Gods" may coexist. We may be inextricably tied to one certain being more so than others in a way we, or even it doesn't understand always... And this being I can see seeking validation from others. I can see it being the monster, too. A d-bag and a guru. Man-child.

God might be found in many. The one reflected through each. The many through one. Uhh. Like that. And varying levels through perceivable.

Maybe the tying that I speak of, to one, such as the Christ on a (the, might be more accurate) cross, maybe this is an example made.... A divine mirror, that we all may be beheld in the image- that we all may be, as well. Sometimes things just align to be seen (or not seen) like a full moon, new moon, or eclipse.
 
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