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Ibogaine - Experienced - "A Rough Ride"

Sir Ron Pib

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It took a while to realise how much had changed after my Ibogaine trip, even though what I hoped from it had been clearly accomplished. I still had some left so I decide to finish it. The first time had been a staggered dose with mainly the pure hydrochloride (HCL) this time the dose was the TA (total alkaloid extract) which is said to be of greater duration and much harsher on the system, with a somewhat more complex effect. I also used a single dose and I was rather more struck by it than I had imagined.

I start at the sight of what looks like a group of ghosts flying out of the tree behind our property, but realise it’s actually headlights caught in the branches.
Soon the ibogaine starts hitting pretty hard and I put on the Bwiti music and lay back. Again for the life of me I can’t recall the order of what’s going on, F and one or another of our pets pass through the room several times but nowhere near as often as I feel they are there, or other presences and I hear voices over the music.
There are waves of queasiness and I start to be sick with familiar force.

I’m looking at phosphenes and they start to form into the shape of the Bwiti dancing towards me.
The music seems much more profound, at points it seems I’m almost amongst the players and community; I see my bare feet stamping in time in the African dirt.
Again and again the red carpet from my first trip appears, often in great detail; at one point I am upside down analysing it and again stripped cats appear.
At some point I have the intuition that the magic carpet and even the cat is a guise of the hidden god and briefly look upon that face.
I know I see some amazing things but feel really out of it and some is lost to memory.
When I start to wretch and hurl again I can’t believe what’s in the bucket; I seem to have regurgitated some alien aquatic life forms which squirm and breathe before me; things about me smear and the rooms spinning in a horrible fashion

With the single dose the visionary phase wears off rather quicker and I am left lying there hour after hour with bad stomach pains and general malaise; the TA seems somewhat more stimulating than the HCL, as well as being overall rather rougher. There are moments of introspection where the iboga makes some issue simply and obviously clear, but mostly I don’t remember much of this period.

The morning comes; I’m not in a very good state. The whole day I feel terrible, burnt out with a cracking headache, vertigo and a general feeling of having been poisoned and only a sort of disassociated lethargy offering any relief. Every attempt at rehydrating with a range of liquids ends the same way; within twenty minutes another heavy bout of dry heaving and vomiting. I’ve been being sick on and off for a period of seventeen hours.

The whole next day I am still prone and totally wiped out; finally that night I manage to overcome Ibogaine’s anti-sustenance effects and eat a decent meal, even enjoying it before sleeping well that night and waking rejuvenated.
 
Oh bum that should have been "A rough ride" not rider as well; my spelling terrible these days
 
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Doesn't sound like this was a very worthwhile trip for ya, but I could be wrong. Was or wasn't it?
 
Thanks mod

Hi Reverend Random - Yes it was worthwhile - the visionary phase was pretty worthwhile for me and pretty amazing at points; although that has to be balanced against a very drawn out phase in which I felt quite rough but I definately consider myself serious about these things enough that I'll put up with some hardship to delve into something shamanic and powerful like Iboga and to some extent this was a continuation of, or in someway a part of my other trip ("the ethereal rush hour") which as I say has changed more for me than most trips have and changed my outlook quite a lot and in turn opened up new posibilities; I wouldn't rush into this again any time soon but I feel privileged to have had these experiences and benefitted from them - Iboga isn't something you take expecting a lark but memory often favours the good and I since the recovery I've felt great
 
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Strange, I thought I already left a comment. I know I have a lot to still learn about iboga. It is good to read reports like this, and to be reminded that the benign nature (and REALLY good feeling I got from ibogaine hcl is not consistent with everyone). I know I want another go with iboga before winter comes, and this report gives me some food for thought as I was going to just make my own TA this time....and I am glad to be reminded that the 'ease' in which I entered iboga space (with the pure drug) may not be repeated with the TA product.

All the best Pib
 
Thanks MGS - well perhaps, perhaps not - I guess you have to be guided by your intuition on this; your obviously going to research more and given what I've read of your history with psychedelics and Iboga in particular I am sure you would gain something meaningful to you. There's the obvious cost benefit to making your own TA but, much more than that the personal input - I do feel often natural psychedelics with spirits or personalities (if you will) appreciate intent/perseverance in these matters. I don't like to draw too many conclusions with limited experience. This was just one experience, perhaps there were other factors at play; but since your thinking about it, whilst it certainly seemed a bit rougher it also seemed to me that it (TA- with it's added constituents) might add in other dimensions of the experience. Wishing you the best
 
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Ibogaine seem so overwhelming, I would love to try it because it apparently balance brain chemistry which I definitely need. But Im actually scared of psychedelics and Ibogaine seem to be the more overwhelming substance on planet earth. Meaby I would give it a try under supervision of professional in a Ibogaine detox center but there is none near where I live, the closest is in another province.

Ibogaine looks awsome and terrifying at the same time.
 
For what it is worth, I found ibogaine VERY gentle and forgiving. The fact it lasts so long is not a deal breaker with most psychedelic heads here at BL...I know many of us love DOC, DOI, etc. I took about 1.25grams of the stuff and intensity wise, at the peak I was not tripping any harder than I would a 'full' (250ug) dose of LSD. The headspace was quite different, and it was considerably gentler/more content compared to LSD...but never any 'stronger' to me.

They say LSD-like psychedelics take you to the universe, ibogaine takes you into your head. That is perhaps true, but ibogaine also decorated my head in Gabon, and hung up pictures and painted in colors that gave the whole experience a 'Gabonese' vibe. I am sure the 'iboga music' I was listening to the entire time was a big factor but still, the content of these African visions was asounding considering I have never been to Africa and do not study the area as much as I do ME and central asia.

Ibogaine seem so overwhelming, I would love to try it because it apparently balance brain chemistry which I definitely need. But Im actually scared of psychedelics and Ibogaine seem to be the more overwhelming substance on planet earth. Meaby I would give it a try under supervision of professional in a Ibogaine detox center but there is none near where I live, the closest is in another province.

Ibogaine looks awsome and terrifying at the same time.
 
I'd agree with MGS here; despite it's reputation as a stimulant, at decent dose seems almost sedating hypnotic and oneirogenic (dream like); in two goes I never felt fearful - as I hint in my other report I accepted what was going off without question - it just was perhaps like dissasociatives or MDMA where some fear response is disabled - certainly people on high doses have got through painful reliving of past trauma in a similarway to the latter

I've been plagued with terrible guts for years and years - despite being sick as hell on this (& maybe a factor in it) - my GF pointed out yesterday I don't seem have had much trouble since my recovery from this trip - something I'd hardly registered - possible life changes taking effect, possibly coinsidence and still early days since I have reprieves but now I do wonder a bit...
 
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