I want to try smack
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kzorro
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I wish that's how it was for me. I don't even know why I do it, because the high isn't anything spectacular when smoked (for me). That goes to show you how fucked up of a situation you can end up in if you've got a seriously addictive personality such as myself. So my advice to the OP is to stay away, you're playing with fire and you know it. It's too bad most of us have to get burned before we can learn...
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Dude... I totally know what you mean. I've studied so much about drugs, it's ridiculous. Reading so much shit about them just makes me want to get them over with. Yeah.. I mean most of the time the anticipation for it and desire doesn't equal what the actual high felt like, but it comes pretty close.
Before I try a different drug I think about all the different crap I learned and read about it. I think about how exactly it will feel and whatever. I feel like you too, if I just tried this then I wouldn't be thinking about it like crazy.
And if you've ever been on erowid, they have stories of people who have used h once and been fine. Just know... please know that this isn't something you can just use moderately. You must must must use in extreme moderation. Addiction is a slow thing. It creeps up on you, and never lets go. Don't become another statistic.
Before I try a different drug I think about all the different crap I learned and read about it. I think about how exactly it will feel and whatever. I feel like you too, if I just tried this then I wouldn't be thinking about it like crazy.
And if you've ever been on erowid, they have stories of people who have used h once and been fine. Just know... please know that this isn't something you can just use moderately. You must must must use in extreme moderation. Addiction is a slow thing. It creeps up on you, and never lets go. Don't become another statistic.
Boiling in Acid
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Dont do it.
Better dont try it in the first place, because it's not an another drug you can use for a period of time & then just stop after you feel your'e doing too much or something. in many cases it's a one way ticket cause it's not like you can return to yourself after an amphetamine binge... you'll need heroin to feel simple mentally normal & youself...
your choise... we worried you.
Better dont try it in the first place, because it's not an another drug you can use for a period of time & then just stop after you feel your'e doing too much or something. in many cases it's a one way ticket cause it's not like you can return to yourself after an amphetamine binge... you'll need heroin to feel simple mentally normal & youself...
your choise... we worried you.
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UPDATE
Yeah look, it's probably best if I don't try it. The fact that I think about it all the time anyway considering I've never tried it is BAD. There has to be reasons behind why I mentally crave the stuff when I've never touched it.
I had an assessment recently for drug rehab, the bloke said I was doing fine and I should still go to uni.
I think part of me thought, 'If I get addicted to smack then I can go to rehab, fix myself up and everything will be easy after then, when I get out', but how wrong does that sound now that I'm saying this out loud. Life's not easy and it's not meant to be, this has to be that inner junkie voice making up things to get me to try it.
I'll always be an addict sadly and I know this. Throwing extra drugs into the mix won't help.
Needles never appealed to me - my biological father is a junkie, plus several uncles.
I know why I've been craving it. First because I've tasted opiates and want to try something a lot stronger but second I have this crazy idea that once I've experienced the best high available I'll be able to focus on reality again because I'll know first hand how it isn't all it's cracked up to be.
D U M B
But at least I know what's going on up there in my head so I have this advantage at least.
Thanks heaps for your concern and advice, seriously.
Yeah look, it's probably best if I don't try it. The fact that I think about it all the time anyway considering I've never tried it is BAD. There has to be reasons behind why I mentally crave the stuff when I've never touched it.
I had an assessment recently for drug rehab, the bloke said I was doing fine and I should still go to uni.
I think part of me thought, 'If I get addicted to smack then I can go to rehab, fix myself up and everything will be easy after then, when I get out', but how wrong does that sound now that I'm saying this out loud. Life's not easy and it's not meant to be, this has to be that inner junkie voice making up things to get me to try it.
I'll always be an addict sadly and I know this. Throwing extra drugs into the mix won't help.
Needles never appealed to me - my biological father is a junkie, plus several uncles.
I know why I've been craving it. First because I've tasted opiates and want to try something a lot stronger but second I have this crazy idea that once I've experienced the best high available I'll be able to focus on reality again because I'll know first hand how it isn't all it's cracked up to be.
D U M B
But at least I know what's going on up there in my head so I have this advantage at least.
Thanks heaps for your concern and advice, seriously.
Self-Aware
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SWIM is high right now. He just finished work and decided to swing past the midnight pharmacy for a box of codeine. He did 200mg plus a few hits of his weed pipe.
He describes this high as being the greatest feeling in the world with almost zero effort. SWIM can plainly see now why he would get addicted to H from only one hit.
While the physical pleasure IS good, it's almost the clearness and boldness that feels more addictive. SWIM loves that feeling of euphoria combined with an all round sense of peace with oneself and the world around him. But here's the clincher: SWIM refuses to socialise in this state of mind because deep inside he feels like a dirty junkie.
In this state of mind SWIM only associates with other junkies or people with much much lower social status than himself.
This is kinda why I wanted to go to rehab but the bloke who assessed me explained that this particular kind of inpatient rehab aims to help those whose lives have become so dysfunctional due to excessive drug and alcohol use, in other words you have to be a homeless junkie or willing to become one to get it.
I want to get at the root of this problem and I wanted to do it inpatient style. Sorry I guess I've seen a lot of movies but I want one of those mental health wards where I'm surrounded by other's all seeking help plus nursing staff and doctors... sorry dribbling..
I think hynotherapy or intense psychiatry sessions could be something worth exploring, when I get the cash together (or health insurance maybe hmm) I know they sometimes give you sedatives to relax you and allow you to open up more to the therapist. HAH that so sounded like drug seeking behaviour at work in the mind.
On the lighter side I've heard doctors are experimenting somewhere acrosss the globe using MDMA and LSD in therapy session. We'd be talking EXTREMELY low dose of both, particularly acid of course but hmm, gives me ideas
I'll source some liquid acid or chalk (pure mdma powder) then go hit up the therapists tee hee.
He describes this high as being the greatest feeling in the world with almost zero effort. SWIM can plainly see now why he would get addicted to H from only one hit.
While the physical pleasure IS good, it's almost the clearness and boldness that feels more addictive. SWIM loves that feeling of euphoria combined with an all round sense of peace with oneself and the world around him. But here's the clincher: SWIM refuses to socialise in this state of mind because deep inside he feels like a dirty junkie.
In this state of mind SWIM only associates with other junkies or people with much much lower social status than himself.
This is kinda why I wanted to go to rehab but the bloke who assessed me explained that this particular kind of inpatient rehab aims to help those whose lives have become so dysfunctional due to excessive drug and alcohol use, in other words you have to be a homeless junkie or willing to become one to get it.
I want to get at the root of this problem and I wanted to do it inpatient style. Sorry I guess I've seen a lot of movies but I want one of those mental health wards where I'm surrounded by other's all seeking help plus nursing staff and doctors... sorry dribbling..
I think hynotherapy or intense psychiatry sessions could be something worth exploring, when I get the cash together (or health insurance maybe hmm) I know they sometimes give you sedatives to relax you and allow you to open up more to the therapist. HAH that so sounded like drug seeking behaviour at work in the mind.
On the lighter side I've heard doctors are experimenting somewhere acrosss the globe using MDMA and LSD in therapy session. We'd be talking EXTREMELY low dose of both, particularly acid of course but hmm, gives me ideas
I'll source some liquid acid or chalk (pure mdma powder) then go hit up the therapists tee hee.
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Chill off the swim self-aware.
The road with dope goes two ways. Neither are good.
Skip the dope, but if our collective reason can't stop you at least make it as safe as possible. And think for a good second why you wan't to try it in the first place.
The road with dope goes two ways. Neither are good.
Skip the dope, but if our collective reason can't stop you at least make it as safe as possible. And think for a good second why you wan't to try it in the first place.
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ive smoked smack more than 20 times and havent ever got addicted and havent touched it for nearly a year.
Its not that good and you dont always nod out unless its pretty good stuff or you do loads of it.
It just makes all your problems disappear and makes life feel alot more easier/ stress free.
Not very good at all tbh and pretty boring., psychologically though it screws with your mind.
I'd be depressed for days after using until i smoked it again, i suppose thats how people get addicted because they think theyre in control of it and then before they know it physically they need it.
Mental addiction is easy to get out of, but physical addiction is a different matter.
Its not that good and you dont always nod out unless its pretty good stuff or you do loads of it.
It just makes all your problems disappear and makes life feel alot more easier/ stress free.
Not very good at all tbh and pretty boring., psychologically though it screws with your mind.
I'd be depressed for days after using until i smoked it again, i suppose thats how people get addicted because they think theyre in control of it and then before they know it physically they need it.
Mental addiction is easy to get out of, but physical addiction is a different matter.
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I disagree big hooter, physical addiction is easy to ride through. You just book yourself into a detox clinic where they pump you full of meds and in a few weeks you're over your withdrawal easy peasy.
But finding a way to replace that psychological urge to run away to your safe place, your haven, your comfort area where you feel completely safe and untouchable from all kinds of negative thoughts and the outside world, that is a completely different matter entirely.
But finding a way to replace that psychological urge to run away to your safe place, your haven, your comfort area where you feel completely safe and untouchable from all kinds of negative thoughts and the outside world, that is a completely different matter entirely.
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yeah man i know the feeling i told myself no opiates today and i used
iv never done smack but on morphine the physical withdraws are easy for me but the mental aspect is horrible
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personally, i never found opiates to be very addictive. but i'm a total freak and don't really like them, they bore me.
from a harm reduction perspective, painkillers are safer because you know what you're getting, whereas dope you got brown powder which could be 50% pure, 80% pure, fentanyl, etc.
from a harm reduction perspective, painkillers are safer because you know what you're getting, whereas dope you got brown powder which could be 50% pure, 80% pure, fentanyl, etc.
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uhhhhh....
hmmmm......
i think you're too excited. it really ain't that different from the other opiates. it tastes like filthy dirty piss-soaked marshmallows, and you'll probably puke your guts out, and you feel numb, and itchy, just like all the other opiates, and if you do it every day for 5 consecutive days, your life is over.
woo hoo.
i'd say, you should save this sort of excitement for cocaine. because THAT shit will have the pay-off you're asking for right now.
hmmmm......
i think you're too excited. it really ain't that different from the other opiates. it tastes like filthy dirty piss-soaked marshmallows, and you'll probably puke your guts out, and you feel numb, and itchy, just like all the other opiates, and if you do it every day for 5 consecutive days, your life is over.
woo hoo.
i'd say, you should save this sort of excitement for cocaine. because THAT shit will have the pay-off you're asking for right now.
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Oh don't you worry I plan on trying coke. It'll probably happen sometime over the next few years while I'm at uni.
I picked up some morphine tabs tonight. Looks like this is the 'smack' I've been looking for.
They're 30mg MS Contin tablets. This will give me the stronger opiate feeling I've been desiring without actually being heroin. Plus I'm just gonna drink it down no way am I fucking IV'ing the shit.
I started another thread about this here ===> "I've got some 30mg MS Contin tabs"
Tonight is the night I try stronger opiates properly for the first time.
Let's see if this 'gets it out of my system' like I've been hoping or at least helps me on my way. I'll either love it or hate it. I'm betting I'll love it, then I'll get over it.
I picked up some morphine tabs tonight. Looks like this is the 'smack' I've been looking for.
They're 30mg MS Contin tablets. This will give me the stronger opiate feeling I've been desiring without actually being heroin. Plus I'm just gonna drink it down no way am I fucking IV'ing the shit.
I started another thread about this here ===> "I've got some 30mg MS Contin tabs"
Tonight is the night I try stronger opiates properly for the first time.
Let's see if this 'gets it out of my system' like I've been hoping or at least helps me on my way. I'll either love it or hate it. I'm betting I'll love it, then I'll get over it.
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Don't dooo it! If you want to get high go drop some acid or something and have a beautiful experience. I had a shroom trip so beautiful one time it made me love myself too much to keep on hurting myself the way I was with alcohol... you need to love yourself, at least for the sake of the people who love you. 
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This is a pretty ridiculous thread. You say you crave h?? you have no idea what cravings are... yet. though i do understand how you feel sorta, i felt the same way 4 years ago, then came 3 years of heroin addiction, im clean now but it was a rough 3 years. opiate addiction is by far the worst out there imo, it really draws you in slow... also you said if you couldnt find a dealer you could make some yourself??? what is that about, you clearly dont know much about heroin. i really dont think anyone could have said anything to stop you from buying these morphines you just got, and probably moving on to h. you must have rich, understanding parents to be able to go to rehab whenever you want. i agree with you that the mental addiction can be very long lasting, but detox from a decent heroin addiction is HELL, trust me.
sorry this post is kinda insulting, it just really annoys me when people say i just wanna try it once, probably cause thats how i once was. but hey, i wouldnt have listened, so if your anything like me you wont either.
"Let's see if this 'gets it out of my system' like I've been hoping or at least helps me on my way. I'll either love it or hate it. I'm betting I'll love it, then I'll get over it." ...cmon, this is a joke right 8)
sorry this post is kinda insulting, it just really annoys me when people say i just wanna try it once, probably cause thats how i once was. but hey, i wouldnt have listened, so if your anything like me you wont either.
"Let's see if this 'gets it out of my system' like I've been hoping or at least helps me on my way. I'll either love it or hate it. I'm betting I'll love it, then I'll get over it." ...cmon, this is a joke right 8)
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It's good that you know yourself like this, and in addition this makes me think that you should attempt to lay off the drugs entirely.
If you can't, like other people have said, stick to weed. Alcohol can be just as bad as heroin, coke, or meth.
And never, ever try heroin. But you've heard that already.