I usually use 30-50mg Adderall/150-200mg DXM at raves. Opinions?

[ProjecktZak]

This is my first post ever, sorry if i do anything wrong.
Anyway, two hours before I go to raves or dance parties, I take 10 robitussin gel caps =150mg DXM, or up to 200mg DXM. When this kicks in at the party I take about 30mg Adderall IR sometimes up to 50mg.

Many people say this is a dangerous combination, but I've done it about 4 times with no adverse side effects, as long as I have a water bottle with me at all times.

Any opinions on this concoction?

 

[Shambles]

I believe there is some risk of Serotonin Syndrome with that combo which can be fatal (I can tell you it's pretty fuckin' horrible even if it doesn't kill you ) so it's not something I'd do myself.

Also, welcome to BL and PD

 

[Solipsis]

That's the most significant bit right there ^ ...

Only thing I'd add is that not having felt any adverse side effects yet doesn't mean it's safe in any way. It could only one first time to do for it to have pretty serious consequences.
Now I'm not advocating that I never take a risk, but generally or always I try to avoid ones I
can't afford... though there have been some and I regret it and should know better.

Have a good time raving anyway but like, find a way that has a better awesomeness to risk ratio

 

[FreedomOfTheMind]

I used to do that fairly often as a highschooler. It feels orgasmic but yes seretonin syndrome can result so fuckin be careful and dont do it!!!!

If you want a similar feeling experience- try doing MDMA and bumping Ketamine throughout the night.....

 

[bobby177]

I believe there is some risk of Serotonin Syndrome with that combo which can be fatal (I can tell you it's pretty fuckin' horrible even if it doesn't kill you ) so it's not something I'd do myself.

Also, welcome to BL and PD

I'm not doubting you but would you mind explaining how it could happen? I always thought that Adderall acted solely on dopamine so your seritonin wouldn't be messed with besides the dxm.

 

[Shambles]

I'm afraid I don't know the technicalities of it but amphetamine and DXM are listed as contributors to Serotonin Syndrome. I'd always been a lil sceptical of the risks of this condition - they seemed very remote, unlikely and frankly pretty unfeasible as I'd clearly dodged it many times like most do) until a recent experience of suspected SS combining LSD with Tramadol. These interactions don't happen everytime and may not be very common but they do happen without warning and they can be fatal. If they are not fatal the effects are truly horrific. I wouldn't want anyone else to ever experience the agony and delerium that I did. There are many other ways to get high for a rave - almost any of them would be better.

Also, I don't think Adderral does only act solely on dopamine. As far as I'm aware the only drug which solely acts on dopamine is MDPV. Adderral also affects norepinephrine which is though to be a contributing factor to SS. I'm certainly no expert though so maybe someone who knows better can help

Additionally, noradrenergic CNS hyperactivity may play a role as CNS norepinephrine concentrations are increased in serotonin syndrome and levels appear to correlate with the clinical outcome.

 

[dread]

It's because amphetamine has some MAOI activity. Combining MAOI with DXM is a no-no.

 

[delsymfan]

Its honestly fine dude. You arent taking a lot of DXM. Just putting yourself at that buzz level.

I have done it as well though not with quite as high a dosage. I would consider toning down the dxm to maybe 100 or 120, and the adderall closer to 40. I think you would be fine there, and your biggest worry is dehydration and overexertion of course.

You gotta be a little careful, because DXM can kinda desensitize your body at the dosage you have going, and you might not notice that you are hurting yourself by doing too much.

Id say overall dxm is very benign and doesnt seem to interact too harshly with other things. But that having been said, its important to remember that it does alter your physical senses quite a bit and you can easily think you are totally fine when you arent.

 

[junctionalfunkie]

It's because amphetamine has some MAOI activity. Combining MAOI with DXM is a no-no.

This is essentially the long and short of the matter. Using DXM while on MAOIs is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your brain. OP, if you are prescribed the Adderall, ask your doctor about the contraindications of combining it with OTC products containing DXM.

Substituting K for DXM would be infinitely preferable, as has been suggested above.

 

[Mr. Tambourine Man]

I've tried a similar combination, at a concert in fact, and it was absolutely incredible (my DXM dose was much higher though, around 350 mg, and I mixed it with around 100 mg of propylhexedrine). I came out of it just fine, but heed the warnings of others, and at the very least use the minimum necessary doses of both to achieve the desired effects. I have to say though, since music euphoria is amplified so greatly with both stimulants and DXM (for me, at least), the effect was absolutely heavenly, and still rates as one of the most beautiful and pleasurable experiences of my life.

delsymfan, how was your experience with this combo? I've been dying to get back into a good DXM experience here on the Bosphorus, as you've probably guessed

 

[Tryptamite]

Its honestly fine dude. You arent taking a lot of DXM. Just putting yourself at that buzz level.

I have done it as well though not with quite as high a dosage. I would consider toning down the dxm to maybe 100 or 120, and the adderall closer to 40. I think you would be fine there, and your biggest worry is dehydration and overexertion of course.

You gotta be a little careful, because DXM can kinda desensitize your body at the dosage you have going, and you might not notice that you are hurting yourself by doing too much.

Id say overall dxm is very benign and doesnt seem to interact too harshly with other things. But that having been said, its important to remember that it does alter your physical senses quite a bit and you can easily think you are totally fine when you arent.

I think its very irresponsible to say that its fine when it does carry risks. In the interest of harm reduction I would consider editing your post.

 

[delsymfan]

Well I added my full thoughts on it. I am obviously no medic, and I try to post in the interest of harm reduction all the time.

But I shared my honest observations of the DXM combo. I would have to say adding DXM to a combo probably increases the risk of you hurting yourself without knowing it, which I said. And I would suggest less DXM in the mix overall.

But you have to remember, people take cough syrup and adderall at the same time. And are alive. This dude isnt doing a full out raging bender on either.

 

[redmand headband]

sounds like a horrible combo to me. i used to be on adderal when i was in school and i just cant stand it now. ive never done dxm.....herd its good from alot of ppl but i did alot of diphenehydamiens(i suck at spelling) and those tuned me off the medicne cabnet drugs. cept for the one in my bathroom

 

[Tryptamine*Dreamer]

The DXM is highly dependent on body weight. In general, combining with any stimulant is a bad idea, but it probably isn't going to hurt if the dose it low enough.

Unless you are below average weight, this probably isn't going to hurt you. Definitely don't go higher.

And definitely don't try to take a 3rd or 4th plateau dose or you will likely die.


I nearly died mixing large doses of ephedra and DXM years ago, suffering a hypertensive emergency, systolic pressure over 300 on arrival, and bleeding on my retinas as well as in my urine. I'm lucky neither my heart nor brain were damaged. I'm also lucky to have lived. Blood pressures that high are rare, many patients probably die before getting that high. My diastolic was as high as 200, which I didn't know was possible. I was given nitroprusside which is one of a few drugs used when immediate reduction of blood pressure is needed.

After coming back to my senses a little, I saw my BP running around 240/150, not knowing what they represented. I was given oral clonidine which brought it down around 200/?. I had unknown, untreated hypertension at the time and normally it ran about 190/130. It is now near normal, rarely even going above 140/90 with meds, its average dropping maybe 4 or 5 points with recent weight loss.