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I saw something unexplained tonight

You know, as wild as it may sound, this phenomena does not seem all that far-fetched to me.

When my first cat passed away I would often be sitting on my bed reading or something and swear I felt my cat jump up on the bed. I'd reach over to pet her and she would not be there, as I would recall that she had passed on. My mother and others I have spoke with have also experienced such things.

I'm not real sure on what technical jargon I should implement to describe this, but I basically feel that you just get so used to your pets being around and seeing/feeling them do the things they do, that you begin to think they are doing things they are actually not doing.

Hell, maybe it really is their ghost. Thankfully, the thought of a "cat ghost" doesn't sound too horrific.

Have you had any cats in that house that have passed on since you lived there?
 
^^Holographic temporal resonance... Jargonistic enough for ya ;)

Belisarius said:
My Mom suggested--perhaps half-seriously--that it might have been my cat's doppelganger. I've heard of the phenomenon, but never in association with animals.


LOL! Read Herman Hesse's 'Demian'...
 
<<Have you had any cats in that house that have passed on since you lived there?>>

Nope. Maybe a different story for the previous owners, though.

I think you have a point, though--maybe you get so used to your pets' behavior that you can mentally project them into doing something or being somewhere they aren't.

Re Whire Rabbit:
Thanks much for the link--I must check it out. ;)
 
weird stuff happens all the time like this one time walking to the couch i saw a man standing outside staring at me went outside no one there, and one time i herd a voice in my head that said the truth. mind plays tricks al lthe time if u want it too
 
Something similar happened to me. I saw a man out of the corner of my eye while I was fixing me a turkey sandwich. I jumped because the figure (man) was unfamiliar. No one there! So I ignored it and went on my merry way. I start heading for the stairs and I see the man again. I turn my head to see if he's there and nope!

I slowly go up the stairs with my plate in one hand and my koolaid on the other. All of a sudden I hear heavy breathing right behind my shoulder. It freaked me out and I started running up the stairs. I kept hearing thumping behind me as if I was being dchased As soon as I got upstairs and dropped my plate:( it went away.

My brother says it was a ghost trying to tell me not to eat the sandwich. It was preventing me from getting fatter lol. He should be talking with his bitch tits!

No but what my point is: I saw a man out of the corner of my eye which was a figment of my imagination. With that in my head, my mind made me see him again. A combination of my fear and my thoughts running wild as I was prepairing my food and then going up the stairs. I made up a scenario in my head that I was being chased by a man.

Your cats are always getting behind things, walking around your place. It's normal that you visioned that and it seemed 100% real. I wouldn't worry too much about it. ;)
 
Especially at night I hear people calling my name and see things out of the corner of my eye that aren't there. I really don't know how to explain it. A lot of times it's because I'm very tired, and I know it's just a figment of my imagination, but all the rest I'm wide awake in my house in early evening or a similar situation. Another thing i notice is that quite frequently I'll hear someone playing a note on my piano, and when I go in the living room to see who it is, no one is there... it's really frightening sometimes, because I hear those notes loud and clear, and they're definitely from *my* piano (if you're a music nut like I am you can hear the difference between particular instruments quite clearly), so it really weirds me out... freaky stuff. I'm sure there's an explanation, but I don't know if it psychological or supernatural...
 
Ok I cannot explain it but no one can, you can either trust what you saw was there or tell yourself it wasnt real until you forget about it. Ultimately though it is real, you saw it, and thats that. Try to play around with it to see if you can control it or communicate, I dunno. If your a shaman or whatever that see's pixies and dragons, it doesnt matter how you explain it but rather what you gain from the experience.
 
Interesting story, Slayerfairy; it has definitely made me reconsider what I may have seen. If you could have seen something that wasn't there so clearly, then I certainly could have done so in the less direct fashion that I experienced.

That said, I also see some merit to what Void wrote above; I think denying the reality of a perception, even if it is not corroborated, leads to other epistemological problems.
 
This is really creepy. When my boyfriend's brother was a 4 month old baby, he used to sleep in between his parents on the bed. He would be all bundled up in blankets. One night, they woke up and the baby was gone! Their door was locked and stuff.

After a frantic search, they found him under a table near the bed... still neatly bundled up in blankets! Now explain that.
 
As long as you can fit your perceptions into a coherent whole, Bel, I don't see the epistemological problem. If you think you see something out of the corner of your eye, then look at it and discover it isn't there, IMO it's probably not. You're not crazy yet. :)

Anyways from I recall of the way vision works, we actually "see" far less than we think we do, in terms of directly perceiving the visual characteristics of an image. Especially when we're not looking directly at it. Rather, the brain has a bunch of "filters" for recognition and so forth, which it applies to images. Once it decides that an object is a cat, or a tree, or your girlfriend, it "fills in" your mental perception based on what that looks like.

The blind spot is a similar type of thing. We don't perceive there being a "blank" point there -- it seems we see our whole field of vision but really we don't.

So all you need to see something that isn't there is to have some recognition circuit-thingy triggered incorrectly, maybe by the chance characteristics of an image matching the pattern too well, maybe just randomly. Seems reasonable that this kind of thing would happen more often when you're stressed, tired, etc.

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There was a good article about this in the Telegraph recently:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connecte...illa05.xml&pos=portal_puff1&_requestid=347199

Look around, and you could be forgiven for believing that you can see a vivid and detailed picture of your surroundings. Indeed, you may even think that your eyes never deceive you. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for your brain.

Scientists have gathered some remarkable evidence which shows that it is possible to see something without observing it, in research that sheds new light on traffic accidents that occur when a driver "looked but failed to see", and other examples of mayhem and mishap in everyday life.

... In one experiment, people who were walking across a college campus were asked by a stranger for directions. During the resulting chat, two men carrying a wooden door passed between the stranger and the subjects. After the door went by, the subjects were asked if they had noticed anything change.

Half of those tested failed to notice that, as the door passed by, the stranger had been substituted with a man who was of different height, of different build and who sounded different. He was also wearing different clothes.

Despite the fact that the subjects had talked to the stranger for 10-15 seconds before the swap, half of them did not detect that, after the passing of the door, they had ended up speaking to a different person. This phenomenon, called change blindness, highlights how we see much less than we think we do.

Working with Christopher Chabris at Harvard University, Simons came up with another demonstration that has now become a classic, based on a videotape of a handful of people playing basketball. They played the tape to subjects and asked them to count the passes made by one of the teams.

Around half failed to spot a woman dressed in a gorilla suit who walked slowly across the scene for nine seconds, even though this hairy interloper had passed between the players and stopped to face the camera and thump her chest.

However, if people were simply asked to view the tape, they noticed the gorilla easily. The effect is so striking that some of them refused to accept they were looking at the same tape and thought that it was a different version of the video, one edited to include the ape.
They link to the ape video -- it's really freaking amazing.
 
Dtergent said:
This is really creepy. When my boyfriend's brother was a 4 month old baby, he used to sleep in between his parents on the bed. He would be all bundled up in blankets. One night, they woke up and the baby was gone! Their door was locked and stuff.

After a frantic search, they found him under a table near the bed... still neatly bundled up in blankets! Now explain that.

HOLY SHIT!!!

Thats when I start looking for a new home!8(
 
Yeah I agree you project your beliefs upon reality, there is a filter. Seeing something from the corner of your eye may mean you see outside of the filter you create. But what if one thing about meditation is to remove the filter, to not allow your beliefs and emotions cloud your perceptions. So in other words, what if through meditation you will able to get that same view across your entire vision? For instance when your about to fall asleep your in a state of mind that makes it easier to get out of body, to fall in a trance, and what if that is associated with deep meditive states and also, glimpsing something from the corner of your eye before the filter shuts down upon the image.

Not saying you should walk around blinking or whatever to see things that are not there, but perception is fluid. It can be expanded by meditation, by an open mind, and by an ignited chakra system.
 
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There are waves and different energy-forms around us all the time, that's what everything is made of.. Usually these energies are unable to be picked up by our eyes, but who knows.. the psychadelics makes us able to tune into other planes of energies, and with time I believe our minds then becomes able to detect those around us all the time..

That is at least my rationalization, which I hope is correct.. Either that, or my eyes are on the verge of breaking down, because I see shadows, ripples, waves looking like seagulls-wings, shadows in the corner of my eyes (that my mind often interpret as people) and small dots floating across my vision-field about all the time.. recently I also have began hearing the distinct aural sensation of my doorbell being rung every time I wake up, but of course no-ones there... :P

Bottom line, there are more things going about around us than we ever learned about at school.. hehe.. a LOT more things
 
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