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I really need advice.

berry1 said:
Ok so ive made a doctors apoitment (sorry its really hard to type) for tomorow morning.

Because ive been having some serious dificultys, last night about 12pm i had a huge panic attack again and i was literally disorientated all night it took me till 5 in the morning to get to sleep. (yes i had to take the day off college). But i woke up today seeling just as disorientated and i was panicing like fuck becasue i didn't know where i was. And its been like this all day ive just felt traped and i no it sounds rediculous but i feel really scared i dont no why i try and tell my self haha your being rediculous come on your 19 but then i just cant get the feelings out of my head... thats probably because i feel really dissy and a little bit disorientated.

For any of you that dont no i had a really bad trip on legal weed and mushrooms 2 weeks ago but im allmost certan that this is something to do with my awareness and probably a psychological thing.

So any help advice ideas, Do you's think it could be an awareness in the brain thats making me feel like this?

On the other hand i do have alot of stress on at the moment and that may play some part in my anxiety... so i no you's are no doctors but im just looking for your personal opinions ?

Thanks a bunch and as i said i am seeing the doc tomorow morning (hopfully i will get something to help me anxietylol.
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Hey Berry! Stay positive my friend, this will ease.

You're 19 yrs old, you got your WHOLE life ahead of you to solve the worlds problems, & your own. Rome wasnt built in a day, but it sure could fall in a day!

Be cool, this shit will ease eventually, it's not permanent. Just try to avoid all psychoactive chemicals, especially alcohol & weed, but also all stims, psyche's even coffee or sugar in excess... ease up on EVERYTHING! Eat fresh fruit n veg, eat regularly, drink plenty of water & fruit-juices. Excercise regularly but not to excess. Get out the house, get fresh air... get the sun on your skin.

Listen to music you like & make concious efforts to relax in the evenings. Don't socialise or go to the pub. Take some time for yourself, there's nothing wrong with being alone but if you need a friend don't be afraid to ask one for support. Deep breathing & other relaxation techniques may also help calm you.

If all this fails then a SHORT course of anti-anxiety meds may be needed but keep it short. Don't just neck whatever the doctor gives you! Doctors are glorified salesmen for drug companies, they WANT you to get a regular script for SSRI's coz big Pharmacueticals make a fucking fortune out of them because their use becomes habitual. They don't want you to find a short-term fix coz it doesnt profit them. So whatever meds they give you, halve the dose or take the doses less regularly (every 2nd day for instance, with daily meds) than they've been prescribed until you know it's not working, then you can up the dosage. Bear in mind SSRI's will take some time to start working & the interim period can bring about an increase in symptoms & even add a few you don't already have! Be careful friend.

Please take care & try not to stress yourself. I know this is tough but it WILL ease & you'll be your old self soon enough!

Big Love & Hugs for you, always available through PM's if you need a chat! <3
 
Si Ingwe said:
Hey Berry! Stay positive my friend, this will ease.

You're 19 yrs old, you got your WHOLE life ahead of you to solve the worlds problems, & your own. Rome wasnt built in a day, but it sure could fall in a day!

Be cool, this shit will ease eventually, it's not permanent. Just try to avoid all psychoactive chemicals, especially alcohol & weed, but also all stims, psyche's even coffee or sugar in excess... ease up on EVERYTHING! Eat fresh fruit n veg, eat regularly, drink plenty of water & fruit-juices. Excercise regularly but not to excess. Get out the house, get fresh air... get the sun on your skin.

Listen to music you like & make concious efforts to relax in the evenings. Don't socialise or go to the pub. Take some time for yourself, there's nothing wrong with being alone but if you need a friend don't be afraid to ask one for support. Deep breathing & other relaxation techniques may also help calm you.

If all this fails then a SHORT course of anti-anxiety meds may be needed but keep it short. Don't just neck whatever the doctor gives you! Doctors are glorified salesmen for drug companies, they WANT you to get a regular script for SSRI's coz big Pharmacueticals make a fucking fortune out of them because their use becomes habitual. They don't want you to find a short-term fix coz it doesnt profit them. So whatever meds they give you, halve the dose or take the doses less regularly (every 2nd day for instance, with daily meds) than they've been prescribed until you know it's not working, then you can up the dosage. Bear in mind SSRI's will take some time to start working & the interim period can bring about an increase in symptoms & even add a few you don't already have! Be careful friend.

Please take care & try not to stress yourself. I know this is tough but it WILL ease & you'll be your old self soon enough!

Big Love & Hugs for you, always available through PM's if you need a chat! <3
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Haha thanks mate... I apriceate it.
Oh! i have a red bull on a daily basis? Ok so ill cut them out. I really want to go out side for a walk but on the other hand i dont want to because as soon as i go out side effects come on really strong and i just feel like screaming and running.

Oh i didn't think of that but it makes sense i want to keep away from SSRIs as i just cant take stronger effects these are already hard to cope with as their coming on again i just dont get why it come on in waves?

Thank you so much.
 
try lying down with your eyes closed, and thinking about one of your favorite places to be. the most tranquil, relaxing spot you can think of, preferably one you know well. Breathe deeply and imagine all your cares and worries draining from your body. this usually helps me when im anxious or stressed out
 
I would guess that you might need to learn how to breath properly (controlled, deep, abdominally). Many panic attacks/disorders are rooted in improper breathing
 
thanks guys,

tbh its so strong that i feel like im trapped in hell and i just want to run... thats how intense it is and i try and relax, imagine a place but it kind of over powers my thoughts.
 
panic attacks... i know them well. but contrary to what some others here advise i have never had any luck with trying to relax. i've always found that keeping myself occupied and not thinking about it helps the most. when had them the last time i would play civilization for days in most of my spare time. so i wouldn't overanalyse my current state of mind and wouldn't be thinking about panicking all the time (which of course leads staight into the next attack).

and you mentioned that you were drinking red bull. it doesn't contain that much caffeine, but caffeine can make panic attacks much worse (for me anyway). it's best to stay away.
benzos have helped me a great deal. they're the only thing i know of that's really effective here (ssri's are shit imho), so if you have access then take them. but keep in mind that they can be very addictive (as roger has already mentioned), so whatever you do, don't take them longer than 2 weeks. it's good to start tapering after about 1-1.5 weeks.

@roger&me
i know a few psychotherapists and they told me that cognitive behavioral therapy is quite effective at eliminating anxiety disorders, but they unanimously said that it doesn't get to the "root" of the disorder and that in the long run the underlying problem would reemerge as a different disorder (with OCD being most common in people with prior anxiety disorders). most recommended client-centered therapy instead...
 
^That very well may be the case, I haven't really done much reading or research in the area at all. I just recommended CBT because its what I personally use to help me cope with anxiety now that I'm off of benzos, and I find that it works fairly well. I still have some anxiety, but its pretty manageable, and actually much better than my later stages of benzo use when I was really a nervous wreck. I think its just important to actively address the problem somehow and be proactive, whatever type of therapy you choose.
 
Yeah, cut out the caffeine and any other stimulants. I'd stay away from drugs if I were you. This is a lifestyle problem, not a chemical problem. Also, try to get as much sleep as you can. I have insomnia, and also chronic back and neck pain, so I medicate with cannabis, which also takes the edge off when I'm stressed or in a panic. If you medicate with cannabis, start very slow. Pack a small bowl in a pipe and take just one lungful at a time, with a couple minutes in between hits. Taking small amounts slowly will help you get high enough to take the edge off without getting high enough to get paranoid and bug out. You might also try making tinctures or edibles, since dosage is much easier to measure that way. If you really can't handle weed right now, I'd suggest alcohol. There's a high risk of damage to your body, as well as risk of addiction, but its the same risk you take with benzos. I stay away from SSRIs completely, personally.
 
How's Berry this morning?

I agree, if relaxing doesnt do it, try some press-ups, sit-ups or some sorta vigorous, indoor excercise. Obviously, a bloody long walk will help but if going outside freaks you out, best to work-out indoors.

Never, ever underestimate the healing power of excercise nor of complete, genuine relaxation. Both are imperative to good physical & mental health, no question!

Come back & let us know how it's going buddy, & so sorry for the delay replying to your PM, my internets crashed last night. Couldn't even race my Grid on Xbox :( Arrrghhhh!
 
There is much evidence that poor breathing is a main contributor - in many cases the cause of panic disorders. Here are a couple 1-second sources - there are peer-reviewed journals out there but these are easy reads and decent articles:

http://www.hepcprimer.com/nutri/breathe.html
http://panicdisorder.about.com/od/livingwithpd/a/deepbreathing.htm

And do not drink alcohol to cope with your anxiety (terrible idea - rebound anxiety at best, a panicking hangover that will be pure hell at worst)... even benzos are not the best idea until you have tried everything else.
 
So i gone for the meal and things went ok i think im begining to ignore it so it should go in time... things are feeling alot better tonight any way ill have to see tomorow but thanks alot to everyone thats suported me and i will keep yous updated.

Just thought i should say touch wood lol i haven't had any panic attacks today ive been close but it hasn't happened so im happy with the improvements.

And generally im feeling alot better

thanks all
 
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