Neuroborean
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You know guys, I've read a lot about it, including old @Xorkoth's comment about not being worthy, and a lot of people saying that it doesn't do anything when dried.....
not my experience at all,
It's true that I didn't try it fresh, a thing that I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO do, but I've never found vendors or places to get it, it would be so cool to find one (I'm not asking for sources..)
For me it just works, very nicely, very "serotoninergically", with obviously enhanced light halos after 20-40 minutes after using it. I've found that it works so good in combination with black seed oil, they complement each other perfectly, and mucuna also enhances the experience. I'm on it at the moment, the visual component it's very clear and I find everything more interesting, both in terms of visual enhancement and also subtle but clear mood enhancement and what seem to be little serotonin release (similar to kanna but not as strong).
I don't know guys, maybe you're expecting some kind of blast or a stim like rush? some visuals like HBWR high dose or shrooms? I just don't need that at the moment, at least not in my daily life, that I just struggle not to feel overwhelmed by the amount of shit surrounding my life, I cannot just use strong stuff everyday, nor I want to, so I I'm in the need of subtle substance and even weed feels too strong for me.
Kava kava, kratom and calamus are my favourite and the more I think about it the more I like calamus instead of kratom, that lately causes me to feel content but not happy, zombie-ish because of nothing, it feels like a way of hiding/desertion and not a way of enhancing my day... maybe the first dose is that, but all the rest... just addiction/habit, which I don't like.
So then, I like calamus, I use 1.5-3 grams, more it's not worthy IMO since it becomes more sedating and couch-locky, it has some micro-rush that I call the maoi-rush, since it's similar to that of harmalas, it seems that some component has MAO-A inhibitory actions, as I remember. It feels pretty similar to phenethylamines in it's core, stimulates the body, with some warm sense of peace and at the same time calms the mind, bringing it so some kind of serenity and functional mood, time seems affected in that way, because seems to be stopping, or going slower, it's one of the most interesting effects, that zen feeling that seem a bit like those moments of peace of good bud or good kava, but different because it seems more spiritual in nature, and at the same time more down to earth, more sober and lucid.
One thing I like to do while on it is just observing, it's pretty good for observing, I would say also for introspection as introspection is a way of observing. I think this substance goes hand in hand with kratom, but it's good to try it on its own since it's subtle enough to be worth a little attention when doing it on its own, to learn to see the nuances of the experience while on it. It reminds me a bit of 2c-c, the "comedown" or last part of the experience, but more stimulating and more subtle.
Next days (maybe tomorrow or maybe in a week, depending on the events )I will try 69ron's acetone wash that I did with +10grams of calamus. According to 69ron, the acetone washes over the emetic components (asarone?) that also cause stupid sedation in higher doses, so you end up with a powder that has the interesting psychedelic and stimulating compounds that are NOT asarone(s).
I don't know how serious and real this is since I'm not an expert in the biochemical field nor in the calamus plant, so maybe some chemists here could help with that, what's pretty sure is that the calamus root has A LOT of different actives so maybe those who are in "minute" quantities could be active only if you separate the more pharmacologically active ones, (the asarones). I'll post my experience in other thread if it's worth it, but also here probably, as a little summary of the experience.
here there's some interesting, basic, papers:
Maybe I'm the odd one here but now that I have (5 years) of kratom tolerance I consider kava kava and calamus much more euphoric plants than kratom itself (my kratom doses are 2-4 grams, low... yeah). Perhaps euphoria it's not the proper word but I think that calamus it's probably one of the best natural anti-depressants, I like it better than Kanna and I only prefer Saffron as in terms of antidepressant feeling, but it's stronger than Saffron (I cultivated saffron and had a lot of grams to play with, fresh Saffron it's definitely psychoactive in "big" doses).
With other substances I feel like it's a enhancer of the other substances (maybe the maoi effects?) but at the same time it tends to go in the front of the experience, at least in mental effects (talking about plants, not hard stuff).
Summing up, it's like a natural anti-depressant, serotoninesque and glowy, serene, slightly stimulating and mind-peace inducing, with some spiritual teaching undertone and a nice soft body high. I would love to try it fresh and chewed, and to grow it! but that would be in another thread I guess...
not my experience at all,
It's true that I didn't try it fresh, a thing that I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO do, but I've never found vendors or places to get it, it would be so cool to find one (I'm not asking for sources..)
For me it just works, very nicely, very "serotoninergically", with obviously enhanced light halos after 20-40 minutes after using it. I've found that it works so good in combination with black seed oil, they complement each other perfectly, and mucuna also enhances the experience. I'm on it at the moment, the visual component it's very clear and I find everything more interesting, both in terms of visual enhancement and also subtle but clear mood enhancement and what seem to be little serotonin release (similar to kanna but not as strong).
I don't know guys, maybe you're expecting some kind of blast or a stim like rush? some visuals like HBWR high dose or shrooms? I just don't need that at the moment, at least not in my daily life, that I just struggle not to feel overwhelmed by the amount of shit surrounding my life, I cannot just use strong stuff everyday, nor I want to, so I I'm in the need of subtle substance and even weed feels too strong for me.
Kava kava, kratom and calamus are my favourite and the more I think about it the more I like calamus instead of kratom, that lately causes me to feel content but not happy, zombie-ish because of nothing, it feels like a way of hiding/desertion and not a way of enhancing my day... maybe the first dose is that, but all the rest... just addiction/habit, which I don't like.
So then, I like calamus, I use 1.5-3 grams, more it's not worthy IMO since it becomes more sedating and couch-locky, it has some micro-rush that I call the maoi-rush, since it's similar to that of harmalas, it seems that some component has MAO-A inhibitory actions, as I remember. It feels pretty similar to phenethylamines in it's core, stimulates the body, with some warm sense of peace and at the same time calms the mind, bringing it so some kind of serenity and functional mood, time seems affected in that way, because seems to be stopping, or going slower, it's one of the most interesting effects, that zen feeling that seem a bit like those moments of peace of good bud or good kava, but different because it seems more spiritual in nature, and at the same time more down to earth, more sober and lucid.
One thing I like to do while on it is just observing, it's pretty good for observing, I would say also for introspection as introspection is a way of observing. I think this substance goes hand in hand with kratom, but it's good to try it on its own since it's subtle enough to be worth a little attention when doing it on its own, to learn to see the nuances of the experience while on it. It reminds me a bit of 2c-c, the "comedown" or last part of the experience, but more stimulating and more subtle.
Next days (maybe tomorrow or maybe in a week, depending on the events )I will try 69ron's acetone wash that I did with +10grams of calamus. According to 69ron, the acetone washes over the emetic components (asarone?) that also cause stupid sedation in higher doses, so you end up with a powder that has the interesting psychedelic and stimulating compounds that are NOT asarone(s).
I don't know how serious and real this is since I'm not an expert in the biochemical field nor in the calamus plant, so maybe some chemists here could help with that, what's pretty sure is that the calamus root has A LOT of different actives so maybe those who are in "minute" quantities could be active only if you separate the more pharmacologically active ones, (the asarones). I'll post my experience in other thread if it's worth it, but also here probably, as a little summary of the experience.
here there's some interesting, basic, papers:
Maybe I'm the odd one here but now that I have (5 years) of kratom tolerance I consider kava kava and calamus much more euphoric plants than kratom itself (my kratom doses are 2-4 grams, low... yeah). Perhaps euphoria it's not the proper word but I think that calamus it's probably one of the best natural anti-depressants, I like it better than Kanna and I only prefer Saffron as in terms of antidepressant feeling, but it's stronger than Saffron (I cultivated saffron and had a lot of grams to play with, fresh Saffron it's definitely psychoactive in "big" doses).
With other substances I feel like it's a enhancer of the other substances (maybe the maoi effects?) but at the same time it tends to go in the front of the experience, at least in mental effects (talking about plants, not hard stuff).
Summing up, it's like a natural anti-depressant, serotoninesque and glowy, serene, slightly stimulating and mind-peace inducing, with some spiritual teaching undertone and a nice soft body high. I would love to try it fresh and chewed, and to grow it! but that would be in another thread I guess...