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WhatIsWrongWithMe

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Okay so as you guys know I have been in a "long-term comedown" for about 5.5 months now.

Symptoms include: DP/DR, nonfocused mental state, anxiety, digestive problems (poop is bad quality), loss of appetite, sexual dysfunction, and sleep problems.


It happened about a week after one night on MDMA (my first time)

I did 200mg and had one beer. I am a pretty small/skinny guy.



I am worried that I could have damaged my liver (maybe drug-induced liver disease, cirrhosis), and that my liver is failing. Could that mixture of 200mg MDMA and one beer do that to me? We did not test the MDMA so we will never know, don't ask. Just tell me what could be happening to me and what you think it is.

I can't seem to figure it out. My family thinks I am being a hypochondriac and they think everything I feel is anxiety fueled. I hope that for my sake they are right.

Could it be that I have just damaged my serotonin network? Are my symptoms related to a damaged serotonin-network? Or are they related more to liver failure? I would rather have my serotonin-network/brain damaged than have it be liver failure



Please tell me what you think, as I am scared to death.
 
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Sorry to hear mate. 200mg and 1 beer is so unlikely to have seriously affected you, it honestly does sound like a massive anxiety issue. Have you been to see a doctor yet?
 
Thank you for your honest response.

No, I haven't seen a doctor yet, but I'm planning to tell my parents that I want to see one. If we get a liver test done, and my liver is fine. Then I guess I'll just have to accept that I am a little hypochondriac.

But I still have problems that I've never had before. I want to know why? What is it, you know? Is it really just ALL anxiety?

That's just hard to believe. :/
 
After reading through your previous 3 threads, all with the same responses and answers to your questions I think everything has all ready been covered, you seem to be answering your own questions though "It cant all just be anxiety", why not? Its very easy to believe. I think the more you read up and self-diagnose yourself the more you are believe its actually happening and youve dont some damage, when its very possible your having some anxiety issues.

Like you said though, wait till your liver test? I cant see what else there is to say, after reading the responses from your 4 threads previous
 
WhatIsWrongWithMe said:
Thank you for your honest response.

No, I haven't seen a doctor yet, but I'm planning to tell my parents that I want to see one. If we get a liver test done, and my liver is fine. Then I guess I'll just have to accept that I am a little hypochondriac.

But I still have problems that I've never had before. I want to know why? What is it, you know? Is it really just ALL anxiety?

That's just hard to believe. :/
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It really could be mate, it's more believable than you think. The more you self diagnose the more worked up you get. Let's get this straight, I am not one of these 'spiritual, positive thinking' mug, I'm hard science and a realist. If you think you are ill, you will feel worse. The more illnesses you diagnose yourself with, the more symptomns you demonstrate. Even symptomns you don't really have you start applying to yourself.

The brain is a very powerful machine mate. There is no shame in going to the doctor. If I was you, just go and see him. Prove to yourself there is nothing wrong - cold hard fact. Then when you leave that room take a positive attitude with you. It will all change.
 
Yes, that is what I am planning to do.

I really hope to god that my liver is fine.

The most unsettling symptoms that I have are bad quality digesting and loss of appetite. Also the sexual dysfunction too.



I guess well see in time.
 
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Yes, that is what I am planning to do.

I really hope to god that my liver is fine.

The most unsettling symptoms that I have are bad quality digesting and loss of appetite. Also the sexual dysfunction too.



I guess well see in time.
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If it settles your nerves a bit, all three symptomns you just described are directly related to anxiety related disorders/issues. :)
 
Huh, yeah I guess so. It does calm me down a bit.

I guess the final blow will be what the results are and what the doctor says. If it truly is some sort of anxiety disorder triggered by drugs, I think I can get through it and live my life normally.
 
Oi vey. The liver can take a massive, huge beating! If there was something so toxic in your pills that it would cause liver failure, it would be all over the internet, pillreports, bluelight, the media, and your local news. Because people would be dying from liver failure. Liver failure is not something that is survivable, unless you are lucky enough to receive a transplant.

By all means, go and have your liver enzymes tested, it should make you feel better. But one beer along with one pill isn't going to kill you.

Test your damn pills!
 
So the consensus here is that my liver has not been damaged. I guess that is what is most logical.

I think I should still see a doctor no? Explain to him my whole situation and see what he thinks?
 
Most certainly. It seems like your anxiety is wrecking your life. A referral to a good psychologist that does cognitive behavioral therapy or the like and deals with this sort of stuff might do you a lot of good. Try to stay off the medication bandwagon though, unless you really need it.
 
Okay thanks guys... I realize that my past threads have all been similar, and I might be getting annoying. So sorry for that.


I've always been a little anxious and definitely depressed since I was a young teenager. After this experience on MDMA i had a huge depressive breakdown, and then all these "symptoms" and feelings of dread came. The most alarming one at the time was that my erections couldn't stay hard.


Please try to understand what I am going through. This is truly the hardest time of my life, and I hope that I can beat it.
 
Your brain and body are not damaged. You stressed yourself out and triggered some anxiety. I have been in your shoes before.

Medical student syndrome is very real. Stay off BL, do not google your "symptoms", you are only going to make things harder on yourself.

Go get CBT, it did wonders for me in convincing myself that my problems were all anxiety based and then it helped me learn how to deal with that nasty anxiety.
 
Just wondering Dawglaw did you have any digestive + sexual problems?

I know it is highly probable that it is just anxiety triggered by drugs but I still want to be sure and talk to a doctor
 
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Just wondering Dawglaw did you have any digestive + sexual problems?

I know it is highly probable that it is just anxiety triggered by drugs but I still want to be sure and talk to a doctor
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In the beginning of my comedown, yes, I had both. Anxiety can scare your dick into not getting hard and it can scare the shit out of you. I'm serious.

Also, anxiety does not just mean you "feel anxious". I only felt anxious for a few weeks, the rest of the time I dealt with very strange symptoms that at the time I was positive were not anxiety. My Dr. told me I was tripping and I was fine. Turns out my Dr. was right.

Go to a doctor, and LISTEN TO THEM. They know way more about what is going on than so called experts on the internet. There are people out here that will never get better because they refuse to listen to medical professionals and instead self diagnose themselves with terrible problems. If you really believe you have cancer, MS, liver failure, boner problems your anxiety will find a way to give you the symptoms of those problems.

In my experience, the absolute most important part of dealing with MDMA "comedown" is not some miracle supplement but rather just maintaining a grasp of your anxiety. How to do that is individual to each person.

It sounds like you are having a really hard time, I feel for you man, I really do. I have been there. Fuck I scared myself into thinking I somehow got MS from my comedown because my vision was blurry. I was FINE. I was just being a paranoid asshole that was spending too much time reading about shit that I didn't understand online.

Bluelight is a great resource for people with anxiety issues triggered by MDxx and RCs but it can also make the problems much much worse. Trust the doctors. MDMA might not be great for you but overdoing it once will NOT cause physical damage to your brain. It CAN trigger anxiety, which if left unchecked, can make your life hell but if you make healthy decisions, it will go away.

Seriously, force yourself to avoid BL and do NOT google any symptoms. I did it for 2 months and I felt a LOT better afterwards.
 
Symptoms include: DP/DR, nonfocused mental state, anxiety, digestive problems (poop is bad quality), loss of appetite, sexual dysfunction, and sleep problems.
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Could it be that I have just damaged my serotonin network? Are my symptoms related to a damaged serotonin-network? Or are they related more to liver failure? I would rather have my serotonin-network/brain damaged than have it be liver failure
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I would say rather than necessarily permanent damage to your serotonin network you have just caused some temporary disruption to the network caused by the drugs.

I dont think all these problems are just anxiety fueled.

Re your theory about your liver being damaged I think that is less likely to be a reality and more likely anxiety driven. Of course none of us on here will know this for sure.

In regards to a visit to the doctor probably not a bad plan to get checked out although I am 99.9% sure they will say everything is okay.

The main problem here is they dont have a reference point to measure against. For example I went to the doctor explaining that my heart had increased in bpm and was causing me sleep problems. They measured my heart bpm and said nothing is wrong. The reason they conclude this is because my heart bpm falls within the average. It doesnt however tell me that my heart has or has not increased in speed because they had no true measurement prior to me triggering long term comedown. I know 100% that my bpm has infact increased despite what they say.

With all doctor visits you have to take on board everything they are saying with sceptism then do your own research in addition. The doctor is always right is a bad idealogy to adopt.

The only other point I would make is also be careful about confessions to doctors about drugs. despite what anyone may say it does go on your record and certain agencies will have access to this. Remember once something is documented despite the law patients rights blah blah blah its still documented and if someone gets access to this without your concent and knowledge theres fuck all you can do.

So far I have yet to hear of one doctor experience where by the user informing the doctor about MDMA made any difference to the treatment received. ie saying I have issues with anxiety is much better than saying ive taken drugs and triggered anxiety.

Of course what you choose to tell the doctor is up to you but please at least consider what I am saying.

Okay thanks guys... I realize that my past threads have all been similar, and I might be getting annoying. So sorry for that.
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Dont worrey my friend you even said in the title of your thread "Sorry for posting again".

I understand where your mind is at and we will give you all the support you need.

I see we have a couple of postings from the usual Bully Boys - Its all in your mind youll get over it! Stop reading google! Stop repeating yourself! Theres nothing else to say!

After reading through your previous 3 threads, all with the same responses and answers to your questions I think everything has all ready been covered, you seem to be answering your own questions though "It cant all just be anxiety", why not? Its very easy to believe. I think the more you read up and self-diagnose yourself the more you are believe its actually happening and youve dont some damage, when its very possible your having some anxiety issues.
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This. There are a few others on here that could do with taking this advice.
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Why someone wants to come into a support thread and make these aggressive and unnecessary comments I have no idea.
Bullied at school, lacking confidence, problems with girls, small willy size - it will be something along those lines :)

I would recommend you dont apologise and bow down to these idiots just feel free to post all you need to get reassurance.

Good luck with your trip to the doctor and keep us posted.
 
So far I have yet to hear of one doctor experience where by the user informing the doctor about MDMA made any difference to the treatment received. ie saying I have issues with anxiety is much better than saying ive taken drugs and triggered anxiety
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I have to disagree with this. Drug caused anxiety and natural anxiety are VERY DIFFERENT. If you go to the doctor and ask for him to treat the second one when in reality you have the first, I don't know why you're surprised he's putting you on all these anti-psychotics/SSRis/Benzos. That's how they treat anxiety.


If you are even going to bother with the doctor, tell the truth. Otherwise find a doctor who is a friend, or someone else not on the job. There are some professionals you can reach over internet chatrooms as well. Lying to them can only hurt you in the end, however.
 
I have to disagree with this. Drug caused anxiety and natural anxiety are VERY DIFFERENT. If you go to the doctor and ask for him to treat the second one when in reality you have the first, I don't know why you're surprised he's putting you on all these anti-psychotics/SSRis/Benzos. That's how they treat anxiety.
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Okay so if the doctor isnt going to prescribe anti psychotic, AD or benzo what are they going to do instead now you have informed them you have been taking drugs?

I have been to several psychiatrists and doctors and they all treat my condition as anxiety / depression never has one made any changes in treatment due to drug use. What you are saying is not correct they dont differentiate anxiety as two different types its grouped as one nothing more.

If you are even going to bother with the doctor, tell the truth. Otherwise find a doctor who is a friend, or someone else not on the job. There are some professionals you can reach over internet chatrooms as well. Lying to them can only hurt you in the end, however.
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My point is telling the truth can hurt you. Now I am diagnosed as a drug user / suffering from mental disorder there is an awful lot I cant do. If I had of known this prior to telling the doctor I wouldnt have said shit.

Finding a doctor on a chat room isnt a bad idea but you never really know who you are talking to. Once again I would be very surprised if a doctor of this sort an iota of a clue about MDMA related abuse.
 
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