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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

I had no withdrawal

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R0Y

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Hi I’ve posted a few times before. I have had chronic headaches of various types since 1987. I started pain management in 2000 bc the headaches destroyed my life. Anyway I ran out of my meds early this month. Im taking significantly lower doses of meds then I did from 2000-2015. I was once on high dose methadone with breakthru meds. Now I make do with 120 15mg tabs of oxycodone a month. I ran out over a week early this month, it was on Tuesday. I took my last dose at noon, and around 6 I took a single leftover methadone tablet, plus one Lyrica, Valium and clonidine. I’ve continued the Valium and clonidine thru today and have had virtually no withdrawal. In the past I would take leftover methadone to bridge the gap if I ran out of my prescribed meds. I don’t think that’s necessary and when I do that for too long it blocks the oxycodone when I get my script filled again. While I’m currently in pain I went thru a simple withdrawal, virtually no symptoms but insomnia.

When I got off of methadone, it was a five month ordeal. I tapered by myself and then jumped from too high a dose, 80mg. Went to a shrink and did suboxone and took small amounts and tapered to a minuscule dose. Took forever.

If I were on methadone now, and wanted off, I’d ask for short acting opioids like oxycodone or dilaudid for a month, which alleviates the methadone withdrawal. Once I stopped testing for methadone I’d taper the short acting down and do what I just did: take one or a handful of methadone to get me off of the short acting med.

I don’t know why it’s taken me 25 years to figure this out but this was unlike any WD I’ve been thru and I’ve been thru a lot.

Hope this helps someone.
 
I'm just shocked that a doctor prescribes you a literal pharmacy in this day and age. People damn near dying of cancer can barley get 120 pills a month, let alone for migraines :LOL:. Glad you were able to have a seemingly painless withdrawal though!
 
R0Y said:
Hi I’ve posted a few times before. I have had chronic headaches of various types since 1987. I started pain management in 2000 bc the headaches destroyed my life. Anyway I ran out of my meds early this month. Im taking significantly lower doses of meds then I did from 2000-2015. I was once on high dose methadone with breakthru meds. Now I make do with 120 15mg tabs of oxycodone a month. I ran out over a week early this month, it was on Tuesday. I took my last dose at noon, and around 6 I took a single leftover methadone tablet, plus one Lyrica, Valium and clonidine. I’ve continued the Valium and clonidine thru today and have had virtually no withdrawal. In the past I would take leftover methadone to bridge the gap if I ran out of my prescribed meds. I don’t think that’s necessary and when I do that for too long it blocks the oxycodone when I get my script filled again. While I’m currently in pain I went thru a simple withdrawal, virtually no symptoms but insomnia.

When I got off of methadone, it was a five month ordeal. I tapered by myself and then jumped from too high a dose, 80mg. Went to a shrink and did suboxone and took small amounts and tapered to a minuscule dose. Took forever.

If I were on methadone now, and wanted off, I’d ask for short acting opioids like oxycodone or dilaudid for a month, which alleviates the methadone withdrawal. Once I stopped testing for methadone I’d taper the short acting down and do what I just did: take one or a handful of methadone to get me off of the short acting med.

I don’t know why it’s taken me 25 years to figure this out but this was unlike any WD I’ve been thru and I’ve been thru a lot.

Hope this helps someone.
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The easier withdrawl I ever had was switching from suboxone to fentanyl patches then cutting the patches down smaller and smaller. It was amazing how easy it was.

Coming directly off suboxone or methadone is brutal.

Good luck getting the medical establishment to prescribe the most recreational opioids to ppl on methadone or suboxone though, for the purposes of kicking
 
ickray said:
I'm just shocked that a doctor prescribes you a literal pharmacy in this day and age. People damn near dying of cancer can barley get 120 pills a month, let alone for migraines :LOL:. Glad you were able to have a seemingly painless withdrawal though!
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Yeah. They’ve clamped down so hard that there’s barely any choice for pain patients. You now have two choices, the patch or oxycodone. My pain doctor told me he doesn’t even prescribe Tylenol w/codeine anymore bc it’s too hard to get. My current problem is tolerance and I’m stuck bc I cannot be prescribed even one more tablet and my doctor doesn’t want me to increase dose yet bc I’m already over my states minimum morphine equivalent dose. Sometimes I’ve changed to other meds like dilaudid for a few months and then gone back to oxycodone with less tolerance but my pharmacy can’t get dilaudid anymore. So my days are numbered and I’ll have to go back to being non functional at times.
 
R0Y said:
Yeah. They’ve clamped down so hard that there’s barely any choice for pain patients. You now have two choices, the patch or oxycodone. My pain doctor told me he doesn’t even prescribe Tylenol w/codeine anymore bc it’s too hard to get. My current problem is tolerance and I’m stuck bc I cannot be prescribed even one more tablet and my doctor doesn’t want me to increase dose yet bc I’m already over my states minimum morphine equivalent dose. Sometimes I’ve changed to other meds like dilaudid for a few months and then gone back to oxycodone with less tolerance but my pharmacy can’t get dilaudid anymore. So my days are numbered and I’ll have to go back to being non functional at times.
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Can you take semi regular breaks to keep your tolerance down?
 
R0Y said:
I could, and should do it on my own….but bc lately I’ve been running out early I get tolerance breaks from that.
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That's reducing your tolerance, but my perception of a tolerance break has always been conscious choice to reduce or cut out your intake of a drug/class entirely. I could be wrong.
 
R0Y said:
I could, and should do it on my own….but bc lately I’ve been running out early I get tolerance breaks from that.
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If that’s the only way you can do it, it’s definitely better than nothing. I found it a lot harder to take breaks earlier on when I was first suffering from chronic pain and would often intentionally not get more pain meds until I was suffering some WD, as otherwise I just would not take frequent enough breaks. But the nice thing about being able to do it on your own is that you can time it for when it’s most convenient for you instead of having it happen whenever you just run out.
 
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