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How to influence your Karma

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Well can you? It's said that it's good for your Karma to support the poor, help cure the ailing, give money to worthy causes or become a monk or nun & give your life to your God or countless other benevolent acts. But does it work? Can we really influence our future existence?
 
scraphead said:
Well can you? It's said that it's good for your Karma to support the poor, help cure the ailing, give money to worthy causes or become a monk or nun & give your life to your God or countless other benevolent acts. But does it work? Can we really influence our future existence?
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Sorry, it does not work like that. You cannot buy Karma. Karma is less of a punishment and reward system and more of a cause-and-effect ripple anyway.
 
Don't let magickduck discourage you. You're free to believe whichever spiritual means brings you peace or enlightenment. Scraphead I do think what you're talking about is a good cause, even being a "cause-and-effect ripple." Karma may be marvelous, or a pain, but I'm no expert.
 
Say you give money to a poor person, and he then goes and buys himself some alcohol, or meth. Is that still considered a good deed?
Say you help a person in medical need, and that person turns out to be a pedophile. Is that still considered a good deed?
Say you become a monk and give your life to god, before you even know/define what god is with proof? Is that a good deed, or just foolishness?

The idea of doing "good" things to make some deity up there smile and give you his blessing, before proving his existence, is silly. You don't know if you have a future existence and doing anything towards that future life before proving its existence is a waste of your time. Karma is more cause and effect in this lifetime, as already said.
 
scraphead said:
Well can you? It's said that it's good for your Karma to support the poor, help cure the ailing, give money to worthy causes or become a monk or nun & give your life to your God or countless other benevolent acts.
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Is it not enough to do these things simply because they're the right* thing to do?


*I'm using this word very loosely, define it how you will.
 
Since I was brought up as roman catholic, I am familiar with "do unto others what you wouldn't want others to do unto you." I always believed in good and bad karma but maybe because of how I was brought up to believe in it. Nowadays I always look at it as a "consequence" (bad karm a) depending on the actions etc.
 
Here, have some of my old posts cause i'm too stupid and lazy and apathetic to make a new one


me said:
Karma is not do go things and good things happen, do bad things and bad things happen.
Karma is not some universal force of reward and punishment and justice.
Karma is cause and effect. Karma is mirror neurons.
If you’re a “good” person, and you spread good vibes, the people you’re nice to are more likely to be nice to the people they interact with.
If you’re a “bad” person, and spread bad vibes, the people you upset are more likely to be mean to the people they interact with.
There’s nothing mystical about it, and karma is nothing like this western misconception of justice and punishment.
No, Karma will not get them back.
No, Karma will not reward you for being "good"
I mean we could go into the difference between kharma and dharma, and how by helping others you’re helping yourself and hurting other you’re hurting yourself because we’re all interconnected as one being and yada yada but that is mystical Eastern ideology that lacks physical proof, unlike cause and effect.
Karma is real, and fuck you. Spreadin’ bad karma like a badass.
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It's not as simple as 'what goes around comes around' it's more like 'vibes spread, man'
Give good vibes, more good vibes will be around. Give bad vibes, more bad vibes will be around.
I mean you could get into the whole we're all one thing so by helping each other we're helping ourselves and yada yada but that is mystical mumbo jumbo.
If you think cause and effect doesn't exist, I suggest you don't meet up with any whales in the Arctic because they've got this notion down pat.
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and if you'd searched you might've found this thread in which rangrz and I discuss a topic neither of us know anything about ;)
seriously though, if you want to learn "how to influence your karma" you might want to start off at the fundamental question "what is karma?"
 
seriously though, if you want to learn "how to influence your karma" you might want to start off at the fundamental question "what is karma?"


so if I am reading these posts correctly is Karma like the weather - we are affected by it but we can do little about it & if so why worry about it or even consider it? Doesn't really matter if the process exists. So an illusion or a delusion?
 
Well other than you taking the wrong message from it, you still misunderstood. Karma isn't like the weather, because the sun doesn't shine when you're happy and the clouds won't piss on you when you're sad.

If you want the dogmatic, indoctrinating karma it we can say that these actions will affect your future (reincarnation and the likes)
Though some sects claim your karma can be altered by "acts of the gods" and yadskladhklsahdkla

You control your karma. If you go around doing [whatever you deem to be bad things] you're 'making bad karma', visa versa

As for your other questions, i'll present you with a quote:
"This life is likened to a field in which our karma is the seed. We harvest exactly what we sow; no less, no more. This infallible law of karma holds everyone responsible for what the person is or is going to be."
This is all well and good in eastern philosophy as we have the comforting notion of rebirth, but for those of us living in the real word it's a spit in the face.
You get raped? You must have done something bad last life time to deserve it
You get in a fatal car crash? It was your time to die, you lost the rest of your life by having sex last life time.
You were manipulated by someone? It's not that they've planned something out and you're naive, no, and it's certainly not because you've put yourself in this position it's because of something last life.

That being said, the sikths are slightly different in relating their karma to consequences in the present as opposed to the notion of it affecting your next life, which also makes sense as there's no universal force making sure 'bad things' happen to 'bad people' and 'good things' happen to 'good people'
 
And let me clarify, just because your karma doesn't always (let's be honest, not often) get back around to you, it doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
If you harm someone and get away with it, the person is still harmed irrespective of you being held responsible.
I mean if you don't care, I'm not going to pretend a few pixels on a screen will change your mind.
But doing shit you see as bad because there won't be any repercussions to you doesn't take away from the real consequences experienced by those affected.

yes i double posted what of it
 
My name is Earl ;)

Bad things happen to good people, as good things happen to bad people..

Or did Karma have a shady deal with Jimmy Saville to put the badness on to new born babies, giving them terminally illnesses before they had a chance to make any kind of good or bad decision?

Never Knows Best said:
Is it not enough to do these things simply because they're the right* thing to do?
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How to influence your karma? Filter every decision you make, large and small, through the screen of "Will this deed I'm about to do build more bridges between people than it burns?"

This isn't foolproof or always clear-cut -- you will make mistakes and misjudge how much your actions bring suffering upon other sentient beings. And when this happens, you must be able to suck it up and make amends, forgive yourself, and move on, knowing that you're a fallible being who did the best you could.

Karma is simply action. "Having good (or clear) karma" is simply the state of mind of resting easy in know that your relationships with the sentient beings in your life are as in-phase as they could be, because you're not in the habit of acting with selfish or exploitative motives.
 
Doing something good in an attempt to rack up good karma will fail because it is the positive or negative energy of your intent and how it feeds back on you that you're trying to influence.

Do good things for the sake of doing good.
 
RE OP:
Those are nice, ostentatious things. Like others have said, though, I don't think it works like that. Lots of people give to the poor. Very few help someone broken down on the side of the road, or return a wallet they've found. In my op, such spontaneous moral choices are equally, if not more important in making the world a better place than planned charity.
 
Karma rules it self. It's a gift and a curse. it's a punishing reality check and a calming reward. Depending on your beliefs karma in my eyes has no bounds no rules it serves the wicked and the just, it's a living enity that takes a divine hand to control. I was given karma by a life long friend mor like my guardian angel so to speak, ad it's inked on my right armor all to see. I do not control it or use it I mainly carry it. It is curse to do the right thing. Stay on the straight and narrow just to watch low down dirty weak bitches steal loot cheat, and lie just to walk away with a smile. I only take pleasure in the idea that what oes around comes around. For if a good man tries to get justice or redemption by attacking with karma they will be the victims ten fold. We just servants are not to serve or take karma we live and can carry it that's all. Crazy I know but it is my opinion and I have witnessed it from both ends. No Powder No Pills smoke weed and eat a Twinkie.
 
I believe that in every religious persuasion, there is the same concept:

Every person has a conscience. If you do something against your conscience, even if no one else knows about it, it creates a psychological burden (think, sordid confessions on your deathbed). It's not an equation-- if you do good things for the sake of erasing those bad things, without truly dealing with the matter, you will still have that burden. Things like confession or other equivalent sacraments look to synthesize the experience, to psychologically release you from your guilt.

IMO if you synthesize your experience (even on your own) frequently, you will avoid doing bad things, and you will be better prepared to deal with misfortunes and fortunes ahead. The latter is the real security in life, versus having a consistently easy life.
 
^ Great post. Long time no see, miss Dtergent! You make a great point: having integrity helps a lot toward cultivating a pattern of right action and being at peace with the world, other people, and yourself.

The notion of "purity" or "cleanliness" is something of a human universal, it's just associated with different things in different cultures. Westerners definitely associate purity most strongly with integrity, of having strong internal moral principles and acting consistently based on them. We even metaphorically use words relating to filth to describe hypocrisy: "dirty business", "a grimy scene". I mention this simply to point out that the word "karma" comes from a non-Western culture and philosophical tradition (India), with likely very different ideas of what sorts of actions and attributes render a person "pure" or "clean" versus "dirty". I'm not familiar with Indian culture on a deep level, but in my experience, the farther Eastward one travels, the more "right action" is situational and guided by other people, rather than something internal that a person carries with them wherever they go. This just dawned on me, and may explain a lot of the misunderstandings Westerners have about the concept of karma.
 
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