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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

How much Roxicodone?

Bloodborne1

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To keep it brief, I have an extremely high tolerance. I’ve been able to cut back a bit lately due to lack of resources, but it wasn’t uncommon for me to take 150mg of hydrocodone a day and feel nothing but a lack of withdrawal. Like everyone eventually experiences, I lost all recreational value from opiates and the only benefit I would receive is not going to withdrawal.

The reason I’m asking about Roxi is that is what I’m about to be discharged on from the hospital. I’m fairly tolerant with this and all opiates.

I just, for once, want to take them and feel some euphoria. I find that it’s better for me to achieve euphoria in the past is to
start off with a large dose opposed to starting low and building up. Since I don’t receive the euphoria benefits anymore, I usually start low in the morning and dose throughout the day so i don’t needlessly waste all I have but still fight off withdrawals.

So what should I start off with as a mega dose of Roxi to hopefully achieve some euphoria? To reiterate, I have high opiate tolerance. I’ve been abusing them for a decade almost, with previously doing so in the past. I’ve never done heroin, but I have done high doses daily of opiates for years.
 
That's a good point @Fire&Water Hopefully our guy here knows how to do a Cold Water Extraction. @Bloodborne1 if you're not familiar, there is an easy way of separating Hydrocodone from Paracetamol/APAP/Acetaminophen. If you want information on that, let me know.

"Roxicodone" is a single-drug product containing only Oxycodone, so the liver issues shouldn't come into play in this specific situation. Crucial advice though regarding the Hydrocodone/APAP.

Speaking again to you @Bloodborne1 I have a lot of personal experience with your current situation. As you described above, you reached a point in which Opioids no longer did anything positive for you. This is the natural progression of Opioid addiction for most people. I was a Heroin user for most of my using career. I eventually reached a point in which I was using 3g of relatively pure Heroin a day, intravenously. It eventually did absolutely nothing for me. I couldn't get high anymore. It just made me numb.

When you hit this wall, the only way to get those positive effects back are by reducing your usage. Higher dosages are not going to get you what you want. You get consistently diminishing returns to the point it drives you crazy. When you first start, 10mg Oxycodone has you in heaven for 6 hours or more. At the end, you could take 300mg Oxycodone and you might feel a little tingle in your toes for 5-10 minutes followed by nothing.

The theory, is that reducing your usage would solve the problem. The practice however, is that a person addicted to Opioids will not ever actually do this. They might, say, take a day off from using, which takes literally all of their mental and physical strength, but they're just going to throw it away for the opportunity to get high for 15 minutes as opposed to 10 minutes. This is if they ever actually try to actively reduce their usage.

The problem is, even if you were to quit for a year, get completely clean, then just go back to using Opioids, you're going to find yourself at the same level of tolerance/dependence within a week or two. You'll have a few good experiences, but you'll be right back in the same place. This is one of those philosophical paradoxes of addiction. No person is going to go through the Herculean task of getting clean, only for the purpose of becoming dependent again.

So, in practice, once you've hit the wall, it's pretty much impossible to go back to how it was.

However, I do believe that you can achieve some relative stability through maintenance. It's not as good as Oxycodone, but the right amount of Methadone can give you stability and enable you to find the sweet spot between the two extremes.
 
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