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How many people here use opiates and can get up in the am?

I have to get up for work 5am 4 times a week....as sad as it sounds when I'm on opiates "they" are my motivation for getting up in the morning. When I was off of them I woke up in down mood almost every morning :(
 
I used to have to get up really early in the morning about 3 days a week. Usually I would take my meds then go back to sleep. But if I had to get up early I would take my dose earlier, even with a tolerance this made me nauseous. It was really annoying, and just another reason to quit.

Once your off the opiates BO, you will feel 1000x better and wont be sick all the time. Be patient and follow through. You seem like a inteligent person, put this shit in your past. You can do it!
 
EXACTLY as me to!! you are the first person who I have heard this from , thank gosh , no one else I speak to has had this specifically*

My real life example, in reply to your ex;
.... Had gone to bed at 3am the night before. But get this, I wake up crawl over to the sofa, lay down in this weird state where I'm half awake and half alseep and it seems like I must stay in the state for an hour or before I really wake up. But I didn't actually get up and start moving around till 3:30 today.

Background: I take 2 x 80mg oxycodone daily + 20mg Instant Release mid day and also ~ then due to boredom sometimes snort extra 40mg late at night due to boredom and habit* Not even needed!! Habitual.

Since I have been on oxy for 11 months now every day my body is programmed on the oxy-clock, so to speak. I am sure you know what I mean. Your body will tell you when its time for more. All the docs say 1 x 80mg should last 12hours - bullshit, I can tell you the 6th hour mark with no watch on anyday, 10000%.

So I awake at 9:45am and need to take 1 x 80mg soon, no later than 11am.
The weird thing is that I never used to feel as you describe up until 3 months back. I feel as you describe up until 1pm usually. If I dont force myself to eat 1 hour after my 1st dose (potentiation) |I can easily , and have fallen back asleep till 2pm. VERY BAD.

My WD's sneak up on me about 4-5pm. At this time, 4-5pm I need another 20mg instant release and due to having a script of 3 x 80mg per day snort 30-40mg on top of this IR.

This will hold my pain in place till about 10pm and this is my last 80mg dose. But if I am bored I tend to snort another 40mg .... this will mean sometimes I do up to 280mg daily. Only on my worst days should I require this amount.

Keep in mind I dont do Ope's for fun, I actually have severe scoliosis and serious chronic pain. But I play around with the times and doses to experiment.

All I can say is if you can take less and quit. I cannot, and will always need them.



Bojangles69 said:
This is perhaps by biggest hangup against opiates as stupid as it sounds, but opiates for me trigger INTENSE hypersomnia.
I almost miss not being able to sleep for 2 weeks straight when I was tapering because now I feel like I'm asleep all day.

THIS is precisely whats ruining my life and I think I've spoke about it before.
But tapering down will aggravate the hypersomnia I noticed (because I'm both in wds and oversleepy from higher doses) to an extent, then after I always pass a certain point (50gms) I can wake up in the mornings again.

Now I'm around 100gms and I keep bouncing my dose to stablize (as weird as it sounds I'm just listening to my body really and giving it whatever it needs for wds) and today I woke up at 1:30pm. Had gone to bed at 3am the night before. But get this, I wake up crawl over to the sofa, lay down in this weird state where I'm half awake and half alseep and it seems like I must stay in the state for an hour or before I really wake up. But I didn't actually get up and start moving around till 3:30 today.
Its a fucking shame and I hate myself when I oversleep like this, but I almost can't avoid it cause I'm a selfish drug addict.

Anyway everytime I taper down I get slammed with wds, but its the sleep that I really can't stand. I don't really care about wds but is there anything I can do to stop this hypersomnia? Just to make it easier to get down to 50gms?

I have no idea how you people hold addictions and jobs down at the same time. The only reason I'm getting by now is I just go to school parttime and am holding down a small but lucrative business. But because my body always feels like it needs enormous amounts of sleep, getting to bed by midnight is impossible. I don't understand how to trick my body or get myself headed back in the right direction. But this sleep crap has been going on so long that its driving me crazy. I'm not depressed but another few months of the shit and I'm bound to get there soon enough.

But are our bodies just all different? Is this a sign at 28 that my body has just taken on too much abuse? I read that smoking also aggravates hypersomnia so I'm thinking I will cut back and see what happens, but I definitely believe its the pods thats the cuplrit. I also had this issue on suboxone too there was NO WAY I was waking up before noon no matter what.

How do you people tolerate this lifestyle? How do you maintain your lives on opiates? I see some of you people holding down fulltime jobs, using more than I am, and I don't understand HOW you are able to do that. Did you not really have any severe addictions before opiates? Because I'm sure my past amphetamine abuse prob predisposed me in someway... but got I don't think you could possibly understand how subhuman it feels to wake up, just to go lay on a couch, body stiff, hot flashes cause I basically sleep right into wds now, I don't know how to deal with this sleep issue anymore.

I'm tapering down but its hard.
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While on opiates I had no problem getting out of bed whenever needed as long as I had my lighter foil and tutor right next to my bed.

Now I go to bed at 1130 and wake up at 630 wide awake and don't know what to do at 630 in the morning when I don't have to be work until 4pm
 
i only cant get up if im sick

otherwise i usually pop out of bed after like 6 hours of sleep for no real reason other than i cant get back to sleep
 
I've been using methadone for almost six years now. I first started when I broke both my legs in a a.t.v accident and now ui can't live without. I go to a methadone clinic here in MN and I started shooting a year ago and have been daily since. My veins are f&$ked and for the past couple weeks have been he'll. The needle fixation is the worse been doing my best to not shoot but not being able to hit a vein has put a damper on things. Heard about plugging but that's a touchy subject always had the notion exit only. Well I'm asking if any one is in a similar boat and am asking for advice. Don't hold back I'm a big boy.....

I can only survive the dawning am because of the clinic... Before my accident I was hooked on oxys and I know the feeling about waking up without anything.the accident and being put on done solved that for me but now it takes ridiculous amounts of done to achieve the high I desire...
 
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idonteven said:
While on opiates I had no problem getting out of bed whenever needed as long as I had my lighter foil and tutor right next to my bed.

Now I go to bed at 1130 and wake up at 630 wide awake and don't know what to do at 630 in the morning when I don't have to be work until 4pm
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you have nice work hours. I smoke weed. need to start running or something but thats coming in the future. im in bed bout 1030pm and wide awake at 530am or so EVERYDAY FOR about 6 weeks. not sure when or if.... ill be able to sleep in again.
 
Ehhh I hate waking up in sweats its the most disgusting feeling in the world. I notice it doesn't just happen when I'm in wds though I can take a dose, go to bed and wake up 3-4 hours later with puddles on my bed and I don't even feel like I'm wding.

Someone had told me though that a lot of people fall asleep easier when its cool, but wake up easier when its warm. And they said if I sleep with a heating blanket, and turn the blanket on superhigh when my alarm clock goes off it'll be easier to get up. It will prob also aggravate the shit out of sweats but sweats seem to happen regardless. So Im gonna go pick up a blanket today and see if it makes it easier to get up.
 
Yup, mee too, I sleep way better if its cooler. with double blankets and the heat at 24 I sweat like a pig.

1 winter fat blanket / cover and its alright ... but if I dose an xtra 40 after 1pm then ya I do sweat even if its cooler. just less. and its not wd's

Also, vigorous exercise 1 hour per day will take this away
 
there was a time oh so long ago when this would happen. it was awful and i was constantly in a half asleep state when attending college. not fun. my family thought i was just stoned 24/7/365. however, this eventually passed and now i'm the exact opposite. i wake up early as hell, hurting for my dose which i usually take. in time i'm sure this will pass. paradoxical effects are a mystery of opiates.
 
I have no problems getting up. I'm a full-time student and work a full-time job, so I don't have that ability to really sleep in. I'd be lucky to sleep in past 8am... Even if I had the day free. I think opiates give me more energy over less. Although, I think I go into a half asleep state more often than a true sleep.

How is your diet? Do you take any vitamins or supplements. I notice that when I don't take vitamins or don't eat so well I'm much more tired.
 
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