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How many of you can believe in incarnated angels?

Yes, they are probably equally as wise. But lacking in other qualities. We just don't have much to do with each other as our goals are so different.

There is a kind of fascination with demonic energy, though, I guess because the attraction of opposites. I find them interesting to some degree and they probably feel the same way.
 
The main goal is to liberate humanity.

Oh, and demonic kinds of beings are in a way more special in this world. As this is a world of darkness. So they have higher status and are more priviliged in this world.

At least it has been this way for a long time but not so much longer now.
 
This is one of my favourite BL threads ever.

You know all those celebrities you named as Angels? How do you know they are? I'm particularly interested in Pete Doherty being one. And whether or not you can name some non-celebrity ones. A few street cleaners, sewage workers perhaps?
 
Of course most are non-celebrities. Hahah. But how would I be able to make you relate to that?

I asked about Pete Doherty in particular, on an instinct, and had him confirmed. Angels can also run wild and do all kinds of mischief. They're often not properly grounded and think they still live in heaven and don't take life on Earth seriously, especially if they're on drugs it just aids to that.

But he has a very innocent look and voice and strong angelic quality. I think he's a great angel who has has done great things in the past and this life didn't turn out as planned. He was probably supposed to use his fame to inspire people differently.

 
Am I an Angel?

Or do you need to hear my voice and see a photo of me first?

Good way to judge who is and isn't an angel Ninae 8(
 
Actually, I'm not 100% sure of everyone, as it's not so easy to judge. Especially it can be hard to tell the difference between an angel and a highly spiritually developed human soul as both have a divine energy to them. An ascended human with only positive energy and Christ-consciousness is almost like an angel.

Who is the angel and who is the evolved human?

(From what I can see, Elvis is the human and the young blond singer is the angel, feel quite sure of that judgement).





 
It was an angel channeler I was talking to a few years ago who channeled my guardian angels for me. I asked about angels who had been celebrities and she said there are many angels who has been celebrities. I said "Marilyn Monroe, Pete Doherty" and she said "Yes".
 
Cool, thanks. What's an Angel channeler? I hear you're an Angel...is an Angel channeler another human like you? Or are you communicating with some spirit world or something?

EDIT Ninae, I saw your name on the bottom of the forum for like 2 hours after this post. Why no reply?
 
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Some say the Archangel, Michael, is Jesus/Jesus is Michael. I've also seen connection drawn to Quetzalcoatl in my reading.

Something interesting that I read, not that I believe it, is that humankind are all the fallen angels. And we were put here on this "prison planet", Earth, to find grace, or be good again. But in this idea, along with it, is that Lucifer (commonly seen as the Satan, but this is all sort of confusing, as I've read he's not) won't get to get out.

As for the world being a dark place, I've read that this world, in it, "The Devil" is God. He rules it. So everything here, is basically illusion (?), or something. False. Not to be trusted. No omens. For for anything in it other than the fellow one in the experience, in love, should be rejected. Taken with salt. Tested. Not trusted. To only trust God.

I know many spiritual people "reject the world", at least for a time.
 
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One of the Bulgarian teachers said "The Lord of Darkness is the real Prince of this world".

I think what it means is that good, spiritual people don't have much wordly power. With all the wars, poverty, etc. It's obviously not who are in charge.

Spiritual people are here more to provide inspiration to those who are receptive to it. When Jesus was here his followers wanted him to become a wordly king. But he said "My kingdom is not of this world" and had no interest in that. He knew it wasn't really possible. The rich were never going to give up what they had to share with the poor, etc.
 
From my understanding of angelic realms during my brief but awesome interactions (which may or may not be a product of some complex delusion, but anyway)... it seems like they are on a frequency sufficiently high that it doesn't make sense for them to incarnate to the lower human realm. It would be like us incarnating as astral low lives, or animals. Humans tend to keep being born as humans except for the odd one in 100 million who ascends.

The angelic realm certainly has great compassion for humanity and may interact with us through various forms, but it's not all sunshine and roses. There are many grimoires that go into great detail about angels who are ruthless and will curse you for summoning them. Angels outright incarnating here on earth? Doubtful. That places too much importance on being human. We exist on a much denser energy level than them, that of physical matter. All of the lower densities above us have a lot more influence and are a lot more high vibration. The lower the density, the higher the complexity. Becoming human is devolution. If you talk to anyone who does past life regression work without the koolaid, they'll tell you that they've never regressed someone back to a non-human life. Humans, for whatever reason, stay on a human trajectory. It also means that the whole Buddhist idea of this being a rare precious human life is also a load. You stay human until you've learned all the lessons, then you become something else, or you just escape the cycle. An angel has nothing to learn from being human and they can do more to "help" us from their frequency than diving into the muck with us down here.

That's not to say that there can't be really high level humans, and I think that's all that we are capable of interacting with here on the physical. Jesus, Buddha, Abraham, and the various prophets throughout history were divinely ascended people. They weren't angels though.

If you mean angels as in some kind of Bodhisattva, then that seems more possible. There are many tales of enlightened ones coming back to salvage others, but the difference is that they were originally human and then ascended and came back. Angels were never human and they don't "belong" here whatsoever. Again, that doesn't mean they don't care about humanity, but... so do many other beings. Most of the occult readings and grimoires on human incarnation I've dealt with indicate that you need special permission to incarnate into the human stream of lifetimes. You can't just come and go. If you become human you stay human because that's your work.

I'm sorry but every resource I know of, from the occult, to the real psychics I've met, to my own god given intuition tells me that angels don't come here. They remain non-material and affect us there, if they care at all. Everyone has holy guardians looking out for them, maybe you're just in touch with those.
 
Foreigner. In buddhism, demi gods and gods tend to use up their good karma and therefor descends to human rebirth or worse. (Animal kingdom, hungry ghosts or hell realm) Must note though; that humans have the best conditions for reaching enlightenment.
 
Foreigner. In buddhism, demi gods and gods tend to use up their good karma and therefor descends to human rebirth or worse. (Animal kingdom, hungry ghosts or hell realm) Must note though; that humans have the best conditions for reaching enlightenment.

Nods... I'm aware, and I'm saying I don't buy it. It's just another tale to glamor people into appreciating the human mortal coil. Just like how they say when life sucks, practice contentment. Don't get me wrong I love Buddhism but it has its roots in defeatist culture.
 
I do not think of it to be defeatist. Practising non-action and contentment is IMO very clever. Regarding your comment on buddhist thought, seing this life as human beings, as a precious gift. Very hard to obtain and very easy to loose. This pushes us, encourage us to take responsibility of our actions. Make most of life. Developing our spirituality, instead of wasting our time in an illusionary rat-race. If your assumption, that we will keep being reincarnated, as humans, is correct. That we will wander this earth, 'till we reach enlightentment. Why dont you consider being reincarnated as an animal an option? As i see it, alot of people behave like animals. Driven by instinct, hunger, sex, violenence, desire in general. I think its not far fetched, to believe, that people who live blind and deaf, driven only by egoistical desires, to be reincarnated as animals.
 
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