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Opioids How long can you take Tramadol before addiction

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How long can you take Tramadol before physical dependence and and withdrawal symptoms occur.
 
Hard to say, there are obvious factors that make this question too varying to answer. For instance genetics, dose, frequency of use and past use of similar medications (opiates) all play a role in this. Tramadol is even more difficult to judge because it is quite different from the majority of opiate painkillers out there. With it's SNRI properties and a weak, selective opiate antagonist effect it tends to be a medication that has a more variable effect on it's users. Just read around on reports of people who have used it, you will find many who thought it was useless/weak and others who loved it.

The best answer can can give is once you start to notice the dose you are taking is not working as well anymore. This typically doesn't take long, 2-3 weeks maybe, depending on frequency of use. This means your body is developing a tolerance to it and therefore is developing physical dependence to the medication. Mental addiction can start from the first time you take the medication and gets worse from there.
 
RTrain said:
Hard to say, there are obvious factors that make this question too varying to answer. For instance genetics, dose, frequency of use and past use of similar medications (opiates) all play a role in this. Tramadol is even more difficult to judge because it is quite different from the majority of opiate painkillers out there. With it's SNRI properties and a weak, selective opiate antagonist effect it tends to be a medication that has a more variable effect on it's users. Just read around on reports of people who have used it, you will find many who thought it was useless/weak and others who loved it.


I'm saying with most opiates you start to get dependent after 3 days of use, is it the same with tramadol or is it longer?
The best answer can can give is once you start to notice the dose you are taking is not working as well anymore. This typically doesn't take long, 2-3 weeks maybe, depending on frequency of use. This means your body is developing a tolerance to it and therefore is developing physical dependence to the medication. Mental addiction can start from the first time you take the medication and gets worse from there.
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I'm saying with most opiates you start to get physically dependent after 3 days of use, is it the same with tramadol or is it longer?
 
And I think there should be a serious distinction between Chemical Dependance and Addiction. Dependance just means your body is telling to it NEEDS that chemical again. Addiction suggests you are selling everything from your TV to your sister to get more. IMO
 
You are not physically dependent after three days of daily use. It takes a few months of daily use before you have a physical dependence. Sure if you quit after a few days you'll have a bit of diarrhea, but that's not a physical dependence. I'm talking restless legs, insomnia, vomiting, etc. It'll take at least a month of daily use before you've become physically dependent.

I believe it was in Junkie that Burroughs commented on this, saying something to the effect of 'it'll take you six months to a year to get your first habit, the next time it'll take a week'

I'm sure I've mutilated that quote, but he's right. The first time takes a long time, I was on methadone 60mg per day for six months and I quit cold turkey. It was on the third day I discovered what restless legs felt like. That was the extent of it though. I got back on it after a month's hiatus, and after 18 more months things were very different.
 
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You are not physically dependent after three days of daily use. It takes a few months of daily use before you have a physical dependence. Sure if you quit after a few days you'll have a bit of diarrhea, but that's not a physical dependence. I'm talking restless legs, insomnia, vomiting, etc. It'll take at least a month of daily use before you've become physically dependent.

I believe it was in Junkie that Burroughs commented on this, saying something to the effect of 'it'll take you six months to a year to get your first habit, the next time it'll take a week'

I'm sure I've mutilated that quote, but he's right. The first time takes a long time, I was on methadone 60mg per day for six months and I quit cold turkey. It was on the third day I discovered what restless legs felt like. That was the extent of it though. I got back on it after a month's hiatus, and after 18 more months things were very different.
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thats not true I have gotten withdrawl after a week of daily oxycodone use, also if thats not true then why do they tell people to do the 3 day on 3 day off rule to avoid dependence ?
 
Tramadol sucks. I found it more habit-forming than hydrocodone, codeine, etc.

I've had withdrawal from tramadol BAD after taking about 500mg/day for a whole week.

With more traditional opiates like codeine and hydro, I can go all week in dosing appx. 80mg of hydrocodone a day, and get only mild withdrawals compared to tramadol.

Hydro wd gives me a runny nose and a backache, and insomnia when im out.
Tramadol gives me terrible depression, vertigo, mood swings, pain, pins & needles,...it's all kinda fucked up and I just used up my last refill on tramadol and I sure as hell don't plan on getting or filling another script of that bullshit.


Oh and oxycodone is way more addicting than most other opies I've tried. Idk why but just a few days on that and you go off, and it's opiate wd galore...still probably not as bad as a week using 1/2 gram of tram every day.
 
Yeah, I noticed physical withdrawal from tramadol is FAST and the only time I've suffered withdrawal in my life. I tried it once (did the average dose that was equivalent 20mg hydrocodone) and for the first 6 hours I felt like a god. Pure euphoria. Did that for about 4 days straight and after that when I had to stop I had to force myself not to take it (it was hard :/ to say the least) just to make my bones stop from aching and feeling like complete shit because that'd be a vicious cycle when I ran out completely.
 
The amount of time that it takes to form a dependency is variable between individuals - dose level, intrinsic tolerance, genetics, environment, stress levels, lifestyle etc will all play a part.

In the worst case: a few days of continuous use of strong opioids can cause dependency for some people. For others it can take up to several weeks, especially if the dose is low, administered infrequently, and/or it's a weak(er) opioid like codeine.
 
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