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How important is culture in relation to drug use? - VERY

SmokingAces

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So I was thinking about this while reading a book before bed last night. Rolling a spliff, putting those blue Rizla papers together, a bit of tobacco and a thick sprinkle of weed. I thought "Americans don't do that part". Just like us Europeans rarely see Crystal Meth on our streets.

But why? It's not like tobacco isn't available in the US. Or there aren't sources of Meth operating in the UK or Europe. So why has that not taken off?

It's amazing how much of our behavior is learned. Most of us are not very original. We are a product of our environments. I actually consider a joint with a bit of decent rolling tobacco and some well grown, cured bud in it is a nicer taste and effect than a straight bud joint, or a joint with trim. And that's both from a subjective and me being objective - I can happily sit and smoke pipes too - I'm not addicted to tobacco. Why don't the yanks do this then? They smoke cigarettes and straight weed seperately, both in pipes/bongs or straight spliffs. The answer is simple - this is how the pioneering drug users did it there in the 60's, those who set the scene. It's crazy but a generation way back actually set the ground work for how you roll today.

And in the UK, where drugs like Mephedrone, and Cocaine are so common place, people go crazy for that shit. Why not Meth? In my subjective opinion it is a better high than either, with about equal abuse potential, maybe slightly more. Meaning it would be more likely to take off. There are obviously people making it and importing it. But propeganda branded it a gay sex drug. And there's all the U.S faces of meth videos. The coke/crack users of the late 80's/early 90's snubbed it. Birth of online marketplaces has increased it's availability but it will never become mainstream. Culture wins again.

There are many, many other drug scenes that this can be applied to. Anyone think of any other good examples? Cultures and traditions of drug use/habits/patterns intrigue me :)
 
As far as the spliff thing goes, I don't know why Americans don't really do that much. I quit smoking tobacco so that's why I personally don't do it, but back when I did smoke joints I'd twist out some tobacco out of a Camel filter cigarette into the joint on occasion. I think a lot of people don't do it just because joints themselves aren't particularly popular...smoking out of glass is just seen as more "economical" & less of a waste of weed (unless you're smoking mids, in which case roll it up).
 
I always put a bit of tobacco on spliffs but usually americans smoke blunts so there is already tobacco in that.

Usually my friends would complain if I smoked a spliff with tobacco in it for some reason but then again they didn't have to smoke my weed. I suppose when I smoked weed there was a bit more sharing then in hard drug culture were as it is always some sort of trade off.

I rarely see anyone hook me up with hard drugs for free but I used to have friends like that but people that nice usually end up getting fucked over and snitched on, dead, or get clean.

But yeah I think it is safe to say blunts are an American thing?
 
People would hook me up with meth for free a lot. That's actually a big part of how my habit originally started, was literally just being given the shit. Meth among hard drug users around here is like what weed is for hippies, practically alternative currency LOL

Never happened with heroin, though. When it comes to that people are tightfisted.
 
I think we also have more of a prescription drug black market in the US. Our prescribing practices here are crazy! Also, black tar heroin is common out west.
 
Its all ecp out here in the southern east coast.

I find doctors are getting stricter as I am on chronic pain management and honestly all the drug seekers coming in really fucked it up for people who have had serious injuries. I can't use two fingers on my dominant hand but they still only will classify my injury to the initial area even thought lack of surgery has caused me more problems and now we are talking an entire limb fucked up and horrific pain.

Yeah its mad pills. The local hood dealers wont deal smack and for some reason most the smack dealers in my area are rich kids doing it for fun so I make a 3 hour round trip to get 3 times as much dope for my money.

I know all the project and hood dealers and that is rare for a white guy. I did almost get shot for being in a cracker free area but my friends sister ran to my rescue and jumped in front of the dude pointing the gun at me. I dunno why but some black ppl just wont fuck with white people and if they do its only a few. These guys got better coke for sure and mad pills so thats some good plugs and its all gravy now that they know who I am.
 
That's another thing I find odd. This is generally speaking but here in the uk generally it's heroin and alcohol being done by the poor people (among other drugs) and cocaine once again has gone back to being a drug of the rich (i mean actual cocaine not 5% bash). Whereas i know a few heroin and crack users but none of them are well of and i even doubt the quality of the stuff they get, the cracks is just full of bicarb and i doubt the h is any better.

In the US the clamping down on prescription pills sounds like it has caused a middle class heroin addiction in the suburbs. I've only tried it a couple of times but i would say the rush is up there with the most euphoric i've had off anything that's why i stay away from it.
 
You are absolutely right about the heroin epidemic in the suburbs. Basically, the war on drugs have made it scarier for doctors to actually treat people's pain appropriately, opened up a new subgroup of "suboxone doctors", and made heroin cheaper, more potent, and way more plentiful in most of america. Thank you Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan! Nancy Reagan...I just say no to your bullshit advice!!
 
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