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The pill gods smileth at me this wonderful eve. Got my hands on some free hydros so popped 75mg and feeling good!
 
dexing and drinking cheapo booze, it's barely buzzin' me (5.9% ) any more. mainly just drinking it because it's more psychoactive than water. i don't have cash for anything other than food/gas/rent going forward, so staying sober is less of a choice and more of a sad reality after this week. that is unless i start attending meetings and trading my vals for 'done. which could be fun i guess.
 
SirTophamHat said:
I'm not sure if it would really take a month, from my experience and my friends' experiences though it does take 2 weeks minimum. And then you deal with possible AD WDs, wtf.

In the spring 2009 I tried both Celexa and Remeron in conjunction with Klonopin. I tried both ADs for about six weeks each, Remeron maybe slightly less. I didn't get any withdrawals from either medication, yet then again I also didn't receive much benefit. I am looking to try Remeron again for its somnolence properties; in the past I was using it more for its primary AD effect. Truth be told, at that time in my life I was pretty much constantly altered in some way and it would be difficult for me to separate the effects of all the drugs I was using. The effectiveness (and the trouble, if you look at it another way) with ADs is that they require long term regular use to build up a sufficient operating concentration in our bodies, and likewise take a while to get cleaned out if we decide to stop using them. The main reason why I am more amicable toward mirtazapine vs. others is because it's so old, has less incidence of causing suicidal thoughts when things go wrong, and last not but least, my dad's been on it for uhhh decades now I think.

Now I gotta ask you in return, what were the withdrawals like for you, and were you still taking clonazepam when you tried getting off the Remeron? I'm hoping to jump on to 15-22.5mg soon but before I do that I need to quit the boozin' for my liver's sake.
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I started mirtazapine for the antidepressant effects as well. I had sworn off all AD's but I wanted a change and I knew mirtazapine was different so I gave it a try. Now it's 3 years later and I'm still taking it nightly. It works wonders for sleep and I think that's the main reason I don't push harder to come off it. I'd say it does help with depression but my general affect/emotions seem very dulled which I don't really like. When I tried to come off it I was still talking clonazepam. I was off mirtazapine for a week and I had some of the worst pins and needles feeling ever. Nightmares, night sweats. I was also drinking heavy so that didn't help..I tried stopping a year later at work and my anxiety increased pretty bad and I physically had to make myself eat. Made me feel very foggy. Idk what to do anymore but for now staying on it seems easiest. In summary, it's great for sleep and it's never lost it's ability there, so I think it would definitely help you in that aspect.
 
Cyanoide said:
Well I've taken amphetamine since Friday. Haven't slept for two nights, have not eaten anything.

So right now it's the usual combination that always works to get down the stimulant; Lyrica, alcohol and diazepam. With these doses, it's overkill, and has completely overpowered the amphetamine. But I feel great so no complaints. High as a kite.
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I sure hope you drink at least 3-4 liters of water and pound some calories before entering that drug induced slumber , or you will wake up unable to move...NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING is worse than partying on stimulants for 2-3 days with no sleep food or water and then crashing for 15-18 hours where you are also not eating or drinking water...
 
Been popping suboxone the past few days, or well sniffing it. 2mg/day. Actually feeling pretty decent off the stuff atm. But that might have to do with it being 12 days ago since I was on heavy opiates. (Not including the lil bit of H I did on day 4 or so, I barely noticed a difference in w/d afterwards so I'm not counting it, to keep myself more positive and for my sanity in general :p).
 
1mg bupe
Coffee

Just waiting on that mood lift. I find my actual maintenance dose to be closer to 0.5mg so this should have me decently buzzed.
 
good to see you around gospel buddy. goin wit the ol state sponsored high, eh? good shit man. always found bupe to be a decent buzz (heard methadone is even better!)

PerfectDisguise said:
I started mirtazapine for the antidepressant effects as well. I had sworn off all AD's but I wanted a change and I knew mirtazapine was different so I gave it a try. Now it's 3 years later and I'm still taking it nightly. It works wonders for sleep and I think that's the main reason I don't push harder to come off it. I'd say it does help with depression but my general affect/emotions seem very dulled which I don't really like. When I tried to come off it I was still talking clonazepam. I was off mirtazapine for a week and I had some of the worst pins and needles feeling ever. Nightmares, night sweats. I was also drinking heavy so that didn't help..I tried stopping a year later at work and my anxiety increased pretty bad and I physically had to make myself eat. Made me feel very foggy. Idk what to do anymore but for now staying on it seems easiest. In summary, it's great for sleep and it's never lost it's ability there, so I think it would definitely help you in that aspect.
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Word, thanks for the details. WDs from anti Ds scare me so much; I accept that if I choose to go on mirtazapine that it'll probably be for life. I also like its potential for increasing appetite since I have a lot of trouble eating when I'm anxious or depressed. Being able to sleep and eat are the two most important factors in my being able to function, no surprise there... my mood sort of falls into place when those two things are taken care of. Overall, out of all the anti Ds, I think Remeron sort of gets overlooked. So while I'm hesitant to start it, I still think it has one of the best risk/benefit ratios in that class of drug.

OT: just barely gettin my funk on, rolled outta bed, popped some pills n filled my cup.
 
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120mg Oxycodone
40mg Hydrocodone
30mg Diazepam
2mg Alprazolam
100mg Promethazine
400mg Gabapentin
Caffeine (coffee)
Nicotine (Marlboro NXT's)


I love the stimulating euphoria from Oxy/Hydro... BOMB
 
- one line of powder dope
- one tablet of Excedrin

Woke up with a splitting headache this morning. Probably from too many drugs.

So I took drugs to relieve the problem caused by drugs! I'm sure people around here can relate to that level of stupidity :p
 
SirTophamHat said:
I am looking to try Remeron again for its somnolence properties
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If you already take diazepam I doubt that you'll get much out of Remeron as far as somnolence goes...IMO drugs like diazepam are much more effective as sleep initiators compared to something like mirtazapine or trazodone
 
SirTophamHat said:
good to see you around gospel buddy. goin wit the ol state sponsored high, eh? good shit man. always found bupe to be a decent buzz (heard methadone is even better!)
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Thanks friend, good to see you too :D Unfortunately I'm the one still sponsoring the high lol (and hell yes it is a decent buzz), distant relative throws me a few strips every few days. I want to wait until I have my own insurance/place to go on an actual maintenance program (hopefully methadone!). If my immediate family learned that I needed to go on opioid maintenance they would basically disown me.

Lucky me though, I'm moving into a cozy townhouse with my girlfriend and cutting all ties in mid Feb so the family thing won't be an issue much longer. Until then the plan is to maintain and get high only very occasionally. I still make a modest batch of ppt twice a week, down from crazy potent stuff + too many pills every day.

But enough about me, I missed yall. It seems like a lot of people in this thread are making some changes as well, best of luck to everyone.

OT: Just popped my daily 1mg of clonazepam. That and the bupe has me feeling juuuuust right, not too high, not too low.
 
Burnt Offerings: The idea is to take remeron instead of diaZepam, and I am only taking 1-2mg of it daily now. I never took more than 5mg of it nightly on a regular basis. Also, I think tolerance doesn't build the same based on my research of the two. Remeron helps with appetite as well which diaZepam doesn't really help with. I'm looking for a more healthy way to help my brain. I believe mirtazapine is healthier long-term for depression-related anxiety or anxiety-related insomnia than a banjodiazepine. Just my own opinion there :/

Razordesignz: BDD is the other way.
 
I think Remeron might help you. I took it for a while when I was really depressed and had insomnia. Ended up switching to Seroquel I believe, as that really knocked me out at just 50mg.
 
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I really appreciate being able to talk to everyone in this thread. I mean that.

Just got home from the company office, got some nice packages from the PO Box on the way. Took another dose of dex for a total of 180mg over the last 16 hours or so. Feeling nice and dissociated. Happy because I'm not craving alcohol right now and should be able to be productive for the rest of the day. I also picked up another truckload of free firewood on the way home from work yesterday, and free firewood is ALWAYS great. More where it came from, too.
 
13 225mg lyrica
6 600mg gabapentin
4mg suboxone
.1mg condone

Im back in treatment. Got arrested again. Possession charges. Heroin. Fuuuuuck.
 
SirTophamHat said:
good to see you around gospel buddy. goin wit the ol state sponsored high, eh? good shit man. always found bupe to be a decent buzz (heard methadone is even better!)



Word, thanks for the details. WDs from anti Ds scare me so much; I accept that if I choose to go on mirtazapine that it'll probably be for life. I also like its potential for increasing appetite since I have a lot of trouble eating when I'm anxious or depressed. Being able to sleep and eat are the two most important factors in my being able to function, no surprise there... my mood sort of falls into place when those two things are taken care of. Overall, out of all the anti Ds, I think Remeron sort of gets overlooked. So while I'm hesitant to start it, I still think it has one of the best risk/benefit ratios in that class of drug.

OT: just barely gettin my funk on, rolled outta bed, popped some pills n filled my cup.
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Unfortunately had to quote the whole block of text lol, for some reason I can't fucking type on bluelight on my laptop. I completely agree though man. Remeron gives me the best sleep and tolerance is not a factor at all in my experience. I can eat quite a bit too which can be a problem for me. Best of luck my friend.

OT: 1mg clonazepam, a cup of coffee, and an 8 hour workday for the day. Tired now but feeling alright, ready to eat.
 
I'm actually feeling good.

I took 2Mg sub though. And my 12mg bromazepam. Gonna go visit my mom later whom I haven't seen since before christmas and before the beginning of my withdrawals. But I think she'll be glad I'm feeling decent again. :)
 
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