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How has contact with the supernatural changed your life?

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Have you witnessed the supernatural? If so, how has it changed your life?

I have met many people who claim/believe they've seen of felt a ghost, for example.
To me, its utterly stupefying how these very same people go ahead with their lives as everything is the same old same.

It just leaves me speculate how an event of such a magnitude, arguably the defining moment of your existence, doesn't seem to have a profound effect on the people who claim contact with the supernatural.

Conversely, if you were ever to witness irrefutably a supernatural occurrence, how do you think it would change you life?
 
I believe after witnessing something of the super natural, we try to forget about it. Even if we think about it all the time, eventually with television brain washing us with all the garbage & everything else our lives evolve around, the super natural phenomenon that occured is easily forgotten.
 
^ I can assure you, that is one thing that I would never ever forget. EVER. Even if it did scare the shit out of me at the time, it would remain *the* defining force in my life.

Doesn't is seem ironic that such an epiphany is wasted on so many people?
 
how are you sure it's what it seems?

an angel?
demon? what if they're just tenders of a herd- us, and we interpret different things different ways? is it really in a pigs best interest .. well.. it doesn't have a choice.. a pig is a pig and it's going to be slaughtered anyway... and it lives in a cage.
 
twentysix said:
how are you sure it's what it seems?

an angel?
demon? what if they're just tenders of a herd- us, and we interpret different things different ways? is it really in a pigs best interest .. well.. it doesn't have a choice.. a pig is a pig and it's going to be slaughtered anyway... and it lives in a cage.
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massive said:
^ I can assure you, that is one thing that I would never ever forget. EVER. Even if it did scare the shit out of me at the time, it would remain *the* defining force in my life.

Doesn't is seem ironic that such an epiphany is wasted on so many people?
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Well, there is a reason why that a person sees what they see. Maybe its a test to see how they respond, whether its changing their life for the better or worse. I believe everything that happens in life happens for a reason, good or bad.

I also believe we can deflect negative energy from entering our lives to a point. It seems good things happen to people that are positive & feel something wonderful will happen to them.
 
twentysix said:
how are you sure it's what it seems?

an angel?
demon? what if they're just tenders of a herd- us, and we interpret different things different ways? is it really in a pigs best interest .. well.. it doesn't have a choice.. a pig is a pig and it's going to be slaughtered anyway... and it lives in a cage.
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Not sure if you're trying to analogize pigs with peoples, but if a pig somehow realizes that his existence is for a purpose (to be the star of a delicious ham sandwich) at the very least he knows that his existence is in fact servicing a higher purpose.

Most people live their lives without this insight.
 
ive been asked before, what purpose does a pig serve..?
& IDF!K;-)

so a pig finding its higher purpose and intention is, a bit rough:-/
but -- possible.!
as written:
"This little piggy went to market.
This little piggy stayed at home.
This little piggy had roast beef,
This little piggy had none.
And this little piggy went "Wee! Wee! Wee!" all the way home"

the super-natural: as with this little piggy; have shown me how important it is to acknowledge, and make light of&with my situation. which can allow one to make the best of their circumstances(traditionally), or show further definition in many aspects and "shapes or textures" of ones surroundings(literally&figuratively):

- an illusion of fate -or- a disillusion of our reality -

drawing a line between the two, and having a firm knowledge of why' is what seems most important in this regard.
if it is a bother;-p
 
Here's a quote by Stephen King in Pet Sematary that I think is applicable to the typical response to the superatural:

Perhaps this is what people do with the inexplicable, he thought...Maybe this was how your mind coped with the flying saucer you saw hovering silently over your back field one morning, casting its own little tight pool of shadow; the rain of frogs, the hand from under the bed that stroked your bare foot in the dead of night. There was a giggling fit or a crying fit...and since it was its own inviolable self and would not break down, you simply passed terror intact, like a kidney stone.
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If the question is "How have I reacted to the supernatural in my life?", this perfectly summarizes my own response. I saw something when I was kid that I've never explained, but it doesn't impact my sense of the predominance of the rational or the skeptical.
 
A lot of people have a temporary insight during these moments where they encounter supernatural things, whatever they may be. The unfortunate part is not many people have the skills (faith, meditative practice, etc) necessary to turn one moment into a lifelong lesson learned. To somewhat quote a text (the Dhammapada? I can't remember)

What is learned is forgotten over time if not regularly practiced. Just like the body begins to sag if not regularly exercised.

Moreover, how often is it that we use supernatural encounters to shape our everyday living? We don't constantly reconnect with the supernatural during our daily routines unless, as stated above, we regularly practice it.

Edit: I have not had many dealings with the supernatural. We have a ghost in the house (we all feel him), but he's harmless. Otherwise, no strange encounters.
 
Simply_Live said:
A lot of people have a temporary insight during these moments where they encounter supernatural things, whatever they may be. The unfortunate part is not many people have the skills (faith, meditative practice, etc) necessary to turn one moment into a lifelong lesson learned. To somewhat quote a text (the Dhammapada? I can't remember)
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Thats a fair point, but still i feel people who claim to have seen ghosts are overly blasé about it. Am I placing too much importance on controvertible evidence of the after-life, undeniable existence of higher-powers? i just donget it.

What about Atheists? Why don't atheists ever have supernatural experiences? If they did it should at least throw come doubt on their (non) beliefs shouldn't it?

at all seems fishy to me.
 
massive said:
Thats a fair point, but still i feel people who claim to have seen ghosts are overly blasé about it. Am I placing too much importance on controvertible evidence of the after-life, undeniable existence of higher-powers? i just donget it.

What about Atheists? Why don't atheists ever have supernatural experiences? If they did it should at least throw come doubt on their (non) beliefs shouldn't it?

at all seems fishy to me.
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Atheists may not have supernatural experiences because they don't believe in it. They reason away the supernatural. And who's to say these things are supernatural to begin with? Maybe we're all being tricked by the light. In either route, we try to reason things away when they don't make sense. We make new definitions for things that don't fit into what we already know. For most people, seeing something supernatural doesn't fit into their definition of what's in the world.

Remember when you were a kid (this more than likely happened) you pretended you were a superhero with awesome powers, then it all went away when you realized you "couldn't" have those powers? I think the same thing applies here. We believe in things until someone convinces us otherwise. Then the reasoning starts.
 
Simply_Live said:
Atheists may not have supernatural experiences because they don't believe in it. They reason away the supernatural. And who's to say these things are supernatural to begin with? Maybe we're all being tricked by the light.
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Atheists don't "reason away the supernatural". They just dont believe in things without evidence.

Aren't you being more tricked by yourself, rather than the light?
 
When you have a super natural occurence, it can effect you in so many ways. Some people cant believe what they just experienced & block it out, they dont have to be atheists. Super natural can be something like an alien abduction. It boggles my mind how many people were supposedly kidnapped via aliens & were put threw tests in a space ship or what not. Ive reaad books where some people believe these supposed aliens are demons from the other side experimenting on us.

At least the pictures we have seen, those aliens are some ugly & scary looking creatures.
 
Not too terribly much, really. I saw a poltergeist in action on one occasion. While I must say it gave me the heebie-jeebies, and I slept with the lights on that night, in the long run it hasn't changed much about how I live my life and what I value, and I can't discern any important messages or signs in the encounter.
 
I tend to think that "supernatural" is not a very useful term to describe spirits, or spiritual and religious beliefs. Those who believe in the supernatural, believe it to be a completely natural part of our world, just not a part that we completely understand. Science is getting closer, though. I tend to think of the supernatural world as "hidden", or "unseen", but I do believe that it affects our lives. I don't think that I would have the strength to continue if I didn't believe in a higher purpose guiding my life. You know, maybe its all for shit, though.

In terms of my direct experience with the supernatural, and its effect on my life, a close family member experienced a miraculous healing when I was very young, and I'd say that it impacted my life in a big way. Because of it, I was definitely open to the concept of God, and a world that is much bigger than what we perceive with our senses directly. My personal contact with the paranormal has been much easier to incorporate into my world view since then, and has been more a confirmation of my beliefs than a challenge to them.
 
massive said:
Atheists don't "reason away the supernatural". They just dont believe in things without evidence.

Aren't you being more tricked by yourself, rather than the light?
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One is only tricked who is surprised by something there is no surprise to.

And not believing in things without evidence is through the act of reasoning.
Reason:
a : a statement offered in explanation or justification
c : a sufficient ground of explanation or of logical defense; especially : something (as a principle or law) that supports a conclusion or explains a fact

The only evidence we can propose is one through our senses. And we know how our senses trick us. By "reasoning away the supernatural", it is assumed this means through explanation, a person who does not "believe" what he/she just saw has a justification against the sense of sight.

ie: "OMG dude, did you just see that? I think it was a ghost!"
"No way, man. You're just seeing shit. It's the lighting."
 
a person who does not "believe" what he/she just saw has a justification against the sense of sight.
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No offense, buts its absolutely ridiculous to claim that normal rational people would actually see a so-called "close encounter of the third kind" or "supernatural" event, but would "block out" the evidence because they can't cope with the truth, or whatever.

Absolutely ridiculous.

The fact that most people who claim these encounters seem to view them as unspectacular suggests to me those people already expect them. Just like believing in the tooth-fairy, only for grown-ups.
 
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