Pharmacology How exactly is Diazepam metabolized?

[DeathIndustrial88]

Thanks again Someguy. I am in a stress fest at the moment (mother days from dying and father needing help). I have been taking 15 mgs twice in 2 weeks but I am thinking I can use this tool a little more without dependence worry. I think I will let myself take 15 mgs twice a week at the stressful times until things smooth out. I know I am being overly cautious. Then next week I switch to gabapentin for a night or two.

Thanks @someguyontheinternet, you know you have helped me in many ways and it is appreciated.

Also I like @DeathIndustrial88 take that benzos don't need to be too feared unless total abuse happens. If anyone sees anything wrong with short term twice a week diazepam speak up. Never even came close to a dependency and I am ok with being very cautious.

Can't wait till calmer days. But this is an interesting thread on metabolites.

Good luck through all of that man, I'm rooting for ya!

I definitely don't see any problem with using diazepam twice a week. I've been off & on klonopin for many, many years. I think I might be an anomaly but I've never experienced a severe benzo withdrawal before. Maybe some intense rebound anxiety when I go without it, but that's about it. I've always expected way worse though, like physical symptoms or even just straight up psychosis from stopping. And I've messed with everything from klonopin, xanax & ativan to bromazepam. My biggest issues with using benzos was/is just the general next-day grogginess/sedation & some horrible short term memory. But I'll take that over constant anxiety. After all, constant anxiety & panic is also not very good for your brain or your memory either. Some people aren't as lucky as me though & experience horrible benzo withdrawal. I watched my mom go through it a few times & it looked like hell on her, but she took a higher dose than me & for 30 years.

I don't find benzos to be all that recreational either. They can be a little, especially if I'm already severely anxious. Going from severely anxious to calm in & of itself can feel kinda good & even make me a bit stimulated. But this doesn't happen all the time & it can really depend on the benzo I'm using & other things. But if I'm only mildly anxious or no anxiety at all, then a benzo just makes me feel "normal" and usually makes me wanna sleep. I do see how one could get addicted to needing that constant anxiety relief, but I'd say taking a benzo is a hell of a lot more healthy of an option than say, using alcohol to treat your anxiety instead.

Either way, in your case, I think you'll be okay. No need to fear the diazepam

 

[JackARoe]

Good luck through all of that man, I'm rooting for ya!
My biggest issues with using benzos was/is just the general next-day grogginess/sedation & some horrible short term memory. But I'll take that over constant anxiety. After all, constant anxiety & panic is also not very good for your brain or your memory either.

Thanks man, those are my issues too with some benzos, next day sleepiness. I get sleepy, not rebound anxiety. Even with etizolam. But you said something I had just realized, it is more beneficial for me to use them at this point on those bad days than not for health reasons. I came back from the hospital after a day with social workers, nurses, my mother and father, and a million people calling me for updates and I had the shakes from being so wound up. Those are the times I use it. Even just 5 mgs works. But go for a little more to get sleep too. All the more healing than skipping them out of a irrational fear. Then they are true tools.

I don't find benzos to be all that recreational either. They can be a little, especially if I'm already severely anxious. Going from severely anxious to calm in & of itself can feel kinda good & even make me a bit stimulated. But this doesn't happen all the time & it can really depend on the benzo I'm using & other things.

Either way, in your case, I think you'll be okay. No need to fear the diazepam

Same here, don't feel high but they take away the shakes. (I hardly get those, just a stressful time) But yeah, I have been too cautious although what I have is better suited for this point in time. Looking ahead, anyone that helped their parents knows the work involved in all aspects. I am not seeing stress go away lol, but I do see the shakes going away.

As far as recreation I have often said regular consensus consciousness is more euphoric than the benzo state for me.

Thanks again DI, I appreciate the support.

But since I derailed the thread I can bring it back. I like oxazepam. (most people seem to dislike that metabolite, at least the drug itself). But I had it one a while ago and worked like any other benzo except took an hour to work.