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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Harm Reduction How do you deal with travelling abroad when dependent on a controlled substance?

Oh, sorry. Wild valerian sounds cool but I don't know enough about Valerian harvesting to give you any advice. You're probably fine...but even as a guy with some experience wild harvesting I'm hesitant to give advice over the internet.

You're probably fine though. Tell you what, if you decide to go for it would you be willing to update us on the results? I wish I could get my hands on some wild valerian.
I might do so, it's an interesting idea, but I don't really like benzo/barb type highs and I don't want to poison myself for a high I don't even like :)
Maybe if I can research some more advice on how to brew it safely.
 
Well the trip went without hiccough, and it's been about 8 or 9 days since my last dose of xanax. It was fine. Spent most of the holiday at a beach bar sipping beer, which seemed like a good cure for any rebound anxiety. Ended up totally chilled the whole time, sleeping well and all that. Now I'm back home and back to the real world again. Interesting going through security, they pulled me aside and went through my bag. I had a load of plasters of different OTC tablets, plus one prescription medicine that my partner had packed, and they completely ignored them while going through my stuff
 
Well the trip went without hiccough, and it's been about 8 or 9 days since my last dose of xanax. It was fine. Spent most of the holiday at a beach bar sipping beer, which seemed like a good cure for any rebound anxiety. Ended up totally chilled the whole time, sleeping well and all that. Now I'm back home and back to the real world again. Interesting going through security, they pulled me aside and went through my bag. I had a load of plasters of different OTC tablets, plus one prescription medicine that my partner had packed, and they completely ignored them while going through my stuff
I hate TSA scanners but I'm glad yr bk home safe and detoxed. I need to do the same with clons.
 
I hate TSA scanners but I'm glad yr bk home safe and detoxed. I need to do the same with clons.
Good luck with that. I think I dodged a bullet thanks to relatively short use of about 7 weeks, before I started a rapid taper. The anticipation anxiety was by far the worst for me -- just worrying that some withdrawal might possibly start at any minute. Generally I had low level anxiety and trouble falling asleep. Then the probably days two and three of no xanax I felt like I had a bit of a cold. Now it's about getting used to real life and my normal base level of anxiety with I struggle to deal with sometimes. Xanax worked well for me, and I'm going to miss having that as an option throughout the day
 
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Good luck with that. I think I dodged a bullet thanks to relatively short use of about 7 weeks, before I started a rapid taper. The anticipation anxiety was by far the worst for me -- just worrying that some withdrawal might possibly start at any minute. Generally I had low level anxiety and trouble falling asleep. Then the probably days two and three of no xanax I felt like I had a bit of a cold. Now it's about getting used to real life and my normal base level of anxiety with I struggle to deal with sometimes. Xanax worked well for me, and I'm going to miss having that as an option throughout the day
I'm glad you detoxed and it gives me hope I will do the same. The anticipation of anxiety is worse no doubt but for me living in a stressful environment makes this task worse for me. I have giving up many things and habits in my life for the better but my past follows me. Some close won't let me forget my past. This is stressful in itself. I also am between a rock and a hard-case in another area which I don't see a way out. I suffer from EHS so living in a high wireless area is not an option for me. On a good note I have got better with time and distance and shielding besides healthy eating and a few supplements which take away oxidative stress I can go to these high radiation areas for a short time without getting ill. Back to the detoxing, I used to get the Teva clons which worked good for me but I am having trouble with the pharmacy getting this generic now. They have an indian brand which is not the same, much weaker and doesn't last as long per dose. So there's that. I can't keep switching generics and detox properly. Do you think I should try to get the brand name and use those to come off? I hate the pharmacies. They now have no respect for the customer. This adds to my anxiety too. Lat time I tried to detox I got down to 1 mg but stayed there than went back up again due to anxiety and panic attacks. Been 20 years on them too..
 
I'm glad you detoxed and it gives me hope I will do the same. The anticipation of anxiety is worse no doubt but for me living in a stressful environment makes this task worse for me. I have giving up many things and habits in my life for the better but my past follows me. Some close won't let me forget my past. This is stressful in itself. I also am between a rock and a hard-case in another area which I don't see a way out. I suffer from EHS so living in a high wireless area is not an option for me. On a good note I have got better with time and distance and shielding besides healthy eating and a few supplements which take away oxidative stress I can go to these high radiation areas for a short time without getting ill. Back to the detoxing, I used to get the Teva clons which worked good for me but I am having trouble with the pharmacy getting this generic now. They have an indian brand which is not the same, much weaker and doesn't last as long per dose. So there's that. I can't keep switching generics and detox properly. Do you think I should try to get the brand name and use those to come off? I hate the pharmacies. They now have no respect for the customer. This adds to my anxiety too. Lat time I tried to detox I got down to 1 mg but stayed there than went back up again due to anxiety and panic attacks. Been 20 years on them too..
I don't know what to advise you other than to speak to a doctor. My knowledge of this stuff is super limited. I have an addictive personality and when I get into something I really, really get into it. When I was drinking I was going for about 10 beers a day, plus around a litre of vodka at one point. So if I can get the benzos under control, I'm sure anybody can.

My life situation is really rough, too. Any escape from having to experience the normal, I'll take. I had a family and a nice house with a nice big garden that was all paid for. Somehow I managed to lose all that. I live with it every day, and live with the fact that my son, who was absolutely my best bud, will barely talk to me any more. I'm unemployed, and too scared of everything to get back into the working world. My new partner pays the rent for us, and has a good job. I used to own a company that earned me enough money to buy and pay off my house and some land (which I also lost) in the space of about 6 years. Now it's a success if I shower every day and manage to keep my apartment clean. The person I'm with now has a personality disorder and I try my best to cope with that, on top of everything else. Not even having the safety net of thinking I could just leave if I needed to. At best I have maybe 400 euros in the bank. And all of that, I didn't give a fuck about when I was taking my xanax. Now I'm back to having to deal with reality, but if I can do it, I'm sure you can.
 
I don't know what to advise you other than to speak to a doctor. My knowledge of this stuff is super limited. I have an addictive personality and when I get into something I really, really get into it. When I was drinking I was going for about 10 beers a day, plus around a litre of vodka at one point. So if I can get the benzos under control, I'm sure anybody can.

My life situation is really rough, too. Any escape from having to experience the normal, I'll take. I had a family and a nice house with a nice big garden that was all paid for. Somehow I managed to lose all that. I live with it every day, and live with the fact that my son, who was absolutely my best bud, will barely talk to me any more. I'm unemployed, and too scared of everything to get back into the working world. My new partner pays the rent for us, and has a good job. I used to own a company that earned me enough money to buy and pay off my house and some land (which I also lost) in the space of about 6 years. Now it's a success if I shower every day and manage to keep my apartment clean. The person I'm with now has a personality disorder and I try my best to cope with that, on top of everything else. Not even having the safety net of thinking I could just leave if I needed to. At best I have maybe 400 euros in the bank. And all of that, I didn't give a fuck about when I was taking my xanax. Now I'm back to having to deal with reality, but if I can do it, I'm sure you can.
The doctors here are only script writers and they won't say ya or nah on any topic. Most of the appointments are e-health visits now so I wouldn't feel comfortable anyway since everything is recorded and data mined. I'm very personal and I hate the way society is going with cameras everywhere and such. Even when I go out to the forest to go fishing and leave my phone with the battery out low flying planes circle around every time. I'm not paranoid I just notice my surroundings and what changes. The USA has become a surveillance state since the NDAA or patriot act. In fact we've been in a silent war for decades now. The gmo's , DEW's ,5G radiation, fluoride and forever chemicals in the water supplies, hyper inflation,vaccines, gang wars, and physiological warfare. Not the America I remember. But if God can keep me sane in this environment I'm sure He can help me with coming off a couple meds. By the way I have documents for all these programs that were leaked..
https://www.hourofthetime.com/lib/Bill Cooper/Lewin_Leonard_Report_From_Iron_Mountain.pdf
Bill Cooper was a whistleblower who worked for Navel Intel in the 80's. He wrote a book "Behold a pale horse" which outlines the details of the silent weapons for quiet wars program and they said he killed himself by 2 gunshots to the head! I'm only putting the info out there so everyone can see the proof of the times were in. I know it's a bit off topic but knowing about these programs are good to prepare if you have the stomach for reading it.
Also thank you for the reply. I hope everything gets better for you and me.
 
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Another thing worth mentioning is that many substances can be turned into a liquid solution and taken on a plane in a water bottle. Most benzos, some opiods, and I think every cannabinoid can be dissolved in just water.
 
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