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How can I counteract acid?

MushMan

MushMan

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My friend just had a really bad episode while trippin', and I was wondering if there is a way to counteract acid.
I heard that milk (or anything dairy) can help. I also heard that Thorazin (whatever that is) brings you down.
Anything else?
*MushMan*
 
dairy will do nothin ,tastes pretty good on a trip but doesnt help much,maybe a little"placebo" will occur and it will calm them down ,but the best way is to talk them through it,you have to convince them they are ok and that ITS ONLY A DRUG---you will be fine in a while!!!...if this does not work give'm some benzos(xanax,klonopin,valium)..they will pull the ANXIETY down and they could enjoy the trip again(hopefully).thorazine will end the trip for the most part but i dont know how to you would get that except emerg.room..hope this answers it fer ya
 
Thorazine (chlorpromazine) is a first-generation anti-psychotic that isn't used much anymore (the reference to Thorazine is from the Delysid monograph printed in Hoffman's My Problem Child). i think the modern equivalents (like Haldol) would have the same effect. you're unlikely to get it; it was found that ending the trip abruptly had some negative effects and that it was a better idea to try to calm the anxiety with benzos.
so yeah, benzodiazepines (xanax, ativan, klonopin, etc) are the official response. failing that, alcohol might work, although it's probably not really a good idea. acid causes severe emotional unstability and a bad trip can usually be made good. sometimes even just *smiling* can turn a bad trip around.
 
Benzos would work, but get something stronger than valium like halcion. Someone said that ambien is also good when your having a bad trip, ambien is prolly easier to get than halcion.
 
Great! And where can I get these benzos?
Do I need a prescription?
And what's the recommended dosage to bring someone down?
I also heard sugar does something. Not sure if it does anything with acid, but I had my friend eat a couple spoonfuls of sugar when he took too much K, and he seemed to burp himself back...or something. Anybody know anything about sugar?
And what do I do if, after the trip isn't "bad" anymore, the tripper constantly thrashes around. i.e. After going through severe nervous breakdowns during his trip, my friend kinda became really hyper. I don't know if it was a happy-hyper. He was just amazed at all the things he could supposedly do, and he was uncontrollable...in the living room. He was thrashing about, knocking over stuff, insistent that we listen to him or he screams...kinda like a really really hyperactive spoiled brat-child. I don't know if you call this a bad trip 'cuz he wasn't really depressed, per say. What do I do then? Will the benzo calm him down from that, too?
*MushMan*
[This message has been edited by MushMan (edited 30 May 2001).]
[This message has been edited by MushMan (edited 30 May 2001).]
[This message has been edited by MushMan (edited 30 May 2001).]
 
Sorry, for the 100th time, no condiment found at yer local fast food restraunt (read: sugar, cream/milk, etc..) is going to snap you out of an LSD trip..
An anti-psychotic agent such as Thorazine or Haldol work nice, but they are not something your likely to find easily... benzos are a good second - my favorite - Halcion - this shit *WILL* take you down... a friend who is an acid virgin got to lick a fresh 'dipped' sheet, probably consumed the equivalent of 8-15 hits ... he was gone, I mean, into oblivian... it only took .75mg of Halcion and he was passed out on the floor.. slept for about 16 hours, woke up, and didn't remember anything... Halcion isn't that common, so go for any other benzo..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
[This message has been edited by PhreeX (edited 30 May 2001).]
 
someone on the board likened using thorazine to counteract LSD as "throwing a reality noose around a person's neck and then kick out the psychadellic chair" that's a pretty acurate statement. thorazine would be a last ditch thing. most hospitals won't use it unless there was no alternative (ie.benzos).
 
Hospitals? ROOFLE!
At about hour 20 of my N-DOM nightmare I wento to the ER, I explained I had "been dosed" with a psychedelic drug (I had my girlfriend to back up the story and I was dressed presentable) ... I explained in a professional manor that an anti-psychotic agent would counteract it - there is NO WAY they would give me thorazine, they wanted to fucking commit me.. hence the IV being ripped out ofmy arm and me running away...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
i coined that "reality noose" phrase...nice to see someone actually remembered something i said...i say you just give your bad tripping friend an aspirin, a tylenol, a vitamin pill or a skittle or anything that resembles a pill and tell em its an anti-LSD antidote...then sit back and watch the placebo effect work it's magic...
 
lol! a fucking skittle. that's wonderful.
thing is, it'd prob. work?
I imagine the placebo effect while on acid is very much stronger that it would otherwise be.
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here's another thing to snap em out of a bad trip...crack open a pair of 5 minute ultra high intensity glowsticks and give em a lightshow...once u get their attention...they'll be staring at the same spot in space for a few hours long after u stopped waving them glowsticks in their face...or until you snap em out of it...
 
Whenever someone freaks and you're not preprared (i.e. benzos) go for the alcohol. Not only does it act as a placibo, it calms, and can nicely sedate someone into a drunken stupor. Of course, I guess this COULD turn really bad, but I would bet against it. Problem is when they can't stop puking/convulsing from the acid and they can't even begin to drink the alcohol.
 
Best thing to do, if your friend doesnt know any better.... TELL THEM that milk WILL help. All they need is a piece of mind, and if you tell them milk helps, they will get it into thier mind that it is counteracting. After it's all over you can explain to them that it actually does work. Might work, might not...probibly worth a shot though. It's all a mind game.
 
niacinamide =
nicotinic acid amide =
vitamin B3 (amide form)
dr abram hoffer sez niacin can stop schitzies from hallucinating... and it could/should work for tripperz as well...
searchwords: megavitamin therapy; niacin therapy; othromolecular psychiatry; abram hoffer; humphrey osmund; HOD (hoffer-osmund diagnostic)
hiya kidz!!!
[This message has been edited by gnrm23 (edited 30 May 2001).]
 
lol dammit my friends shoulda got me drunk when i was bad trippin! doh! = P
 
"kinda like a really really hyperactive spoiled brat-child"
ROFL!!!!
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"I could not/Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither/Living nor dead, and I knew nothing" - T.S. Eliot, The Wasteland
 
I agree with the benzos approach. When I personally trip on high dose acid, i like having the peace of just knowing that the pill is sitting on the desk, just in case I should need it - this alone keeps my mind from running off most of the time.
A few other things:
Change the music! I know it sounds silly, but I have administered a good amount of "First Time" LSD trips to friends and when I begin to see the expression on their face start to get a bit spooked, the first thing I do is look to put on a more uplifting/melodic/happy song. This is not a time to be listening to TOOL, Megadeath, and/or Rammstien!!! Usually melodic trance with light beats or even "New Age" music like Yanni or Enya(Laugh all you want, the shit works!!!) This generally does wonders! I feel that music is by far one of the most important stimuli during an LSD trip. It does posess the ability to totally turn a trip around for the better.
If this doesn't work, a great way to help the person tripping out of control is to provide them with a nice soft blanket and have them go barefoot. This is under the assumption that you have already gotten the person to a safe, familiar place (i.e. Home). It is amazing the sense of "Grounding" that being barefoot on a rug can feel, and how effectively it reminds you that you are still very much on planet earth. The blanket offers a great degree of comfort and security, which is almost always immediately appreciated.
Well, I hope this helps. Good luck, and safe tripping.
SG
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[This message has been edited by Sebastians_ghost (edited 31 May 2001).]
 
It's a good thing that they didn't give you Thorazine, Phreex--I've heard that it actually *worsens* the effects of DOM. This apparent magic bullet doesn't work on all psychedelics.
 
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