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Meth Hoping some answers are out there

Cult315

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(Skip to the 3rd paragraph if you want to avoid my ramblings/explanation)
So my main guy, and most of the others I know all got busted in a very bizarre way the other day and the remaining people I know have all gone dark. My girl decided to reach out to a girl she knows also deals with the guy and turned it out she could hook us up. We got a bag off her the other day and it was all good. A bit powdery, might be MSM-y, I honestly don’t really know what’s what when it comes to meth because for a long time now it seems no 2 bags have ever been the same, but the bag was good. Best shit I’ve done in quite some time now actually.

Today we went to pick up again and I’m not sure wtf is going on. My girl went herself, we were picking up a ball. The new girl has my girl drive her to one place, picks up and says it wasn’t enough so has her stop at another house down the street. The girl then hands her 2 different packs, has her drop her off somewhere else and she comes home. With like 4x the amount we were supposed to get, at first I thought she fuckin robbed her or something but no, she was freaking out too wondering if she handed her the wrong bag, but it doesn’t make sense cause the first bag that was supposedly light weighed over 8g. The 2nd weighed right on point.

The 2 bags are completely different. The first is what to me looks like the nicest crystals I’ve seen since I first started. The second is straight ‘shake’/powder with some small chunks. I’ve gotten used to a vastly different appearance in meth, like I said before, it seems like no 2 bags are ever the same. So it didnt really raise any questions other than why the fuck is there so much? I think I got my answer(we got ripped off?) but I don’t understand what it is. I’m not asking for an ID, just wondering if off my description if anybody thinks that it actually could be something else or if I just got some weird meth. I’m mostly concerned about bag #1 though

It looks like good, normal crystals(I think), but at first they were wet seeming. I could bend them instead of breaking them, I poured some out on a piece of paper and they seem to have dried? now but they’re still weird. I go to get the vapor rolling, and it takes a seemingly long time. Once there’s enough to go take a hit, the hit is kinda harsh and I exhale absolutely nothing. I’ve put a few small pieces in my mouth and as far as I can tell it tastes like absolutely nothing. It seems like it’s like crystallized water or something. I’m beyond baffled, but I think it’s getting me high? I’m really not sure what to think, and I know better than to ask for ID on here but has anybody ever experienced meth with these properties before? It also turns the whole pipe white pretty instantly if that’s an indication or anything
 
you gettin set up my lad...get that out the house asap

ok didnt read all of that at first. could be isopropyl phenethylamine
 
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Another thing I meant to ask and forgot, without a test kit is there anything I can do to test if it’s actually meth or not? I don’t have access to any sort of lab equipment or chemicals or anything so it would have to be something simple.

It’s honestly really concerning me because I’ve done quite a bit of meth at this point and I’ve never had absolutely nothing come out on the exhale. And it’s always had a very specific taste when I put it in my mouth, and this has no taste. Maybe my taste buds are shot, but at the very least it doesn’t have the taste that I’ve got every single other time I’ve (stupidly) put some in my mouth.
 
do some presumtive tests eg solubility melting point pka ect or get that bitch on the phone an tell her you will break every window in her house an every time they fix em youl break em again
 
Update - found out about the bleach test. It sunk straight to the bottom and either isn’t dissolving or is very slowly.

I also tested the crack back in the bowl. It goes from crystal to a water looking liquid, and if I roll the bowl it just freely rolls for about 30 seconds before hardening into streaks? and turns pretty much the entire bowl white.

Wtf. Is this just completely fake? Again, I know IDs are impossible/not allowed but is there anything I can chance this is meth, or is it just straight to the bin?
 
All meth made after 2010 utilizes phenyl-2-propanone, or P2P, which is commonly used for several legal industrial applications, instead of ephedrine, a plant-derived compound used as a decongestant and stimulant.

Whereas previous versions of meth produced feelings of euphoria, alertness and elevated mood, P2P seems to drive users toward isolation and neurological descent—paranoia, psychosis, delusions, hallucinations—while precipitating more rapid physical deterioration leading to liver failure and death.

Precursor chemicals like P2P are the main ingredient in synthetic meth and other drugs. Making matters worse are binding agents like MSM or N-iso. Side effects of N-iso include sleepiness, lethargy, gastro intestinal problems, trouble urinating, irregular and strange bowel movements, headaches , nausea, dry skin, vasoconstriction, numbness, edema(swelling), heart problems and a whole mess of other ones.
 
If you have Harm Reduction services in your area, it's possible that they may have test strips for various different drugs including Amphetamine/Methamphetamine. Often, it's just Fentanyl tests. It is worth a phone call at least. If you tell me where you're located I'll figure it out for you.

The only thing that will give you an answer would be the test strip. Otherwise, you would have to send a sample out for testing at a laboratory. I know that is unrealistic for you.

Otherwise, you are never going to know. Honestly, the process of vaporizing Methamphetamine or any drug actually provides you with a known process that can be judged by eye. What I mean is, you're not just sniffing or injecting something; you're heating it up, watching it sizzle and you taste the vapor. Additionally, you're able to judge the residue left behind following vaporization. This gives you a lot more cues to judge by compared to other route of administration.

If I were you, I would assume the shit is fake or heaviliy cut. If you're going to use it anyway, I would highly recommend not vaporizing it and exposing your lungs to whatever is in it. To be clear, I advise getting rid of it. If you're going to take it anyway, use it by a less damaging route of administration like PO or insufflation.
 
Thanks for the replies fellas.

Yeah, I decided after a few minor attempts at using it(letting it reach melting point and blowing smoke out to see if any actual meth was left behind, small oral doses and I noped out of insufflation) that it was just garbage and not worth the risk of trying to use it. I thought the girl we’d went through had just gotten robbed, as she’d gotten us a nice, real bag after. But then gave us this same exact garbage the next time.

For some reason meth is becoming extraordinarily hard to find in my immediate area despite it being probably the most wide spread drug around. With the last little good bit I had I spent 2 days seeking out and researching online vendors for different substances, and through pretty much pure luck found a few very good legitimate ones. Upon that discovery and the use of my last bit of real meth I’ve decided to quit meth and am going to just white knuckle my way through the next few days until my shipment arrives lol. Finally got my hands on a non-stimulant compound that I’ve been wanting to get my hands on for a while now, and while it’s not the strongest it definitely should meet my needs and will save me quite a bit of money per daily dosage. Even more so if I manage to only dose every few days as I’m hoping to, but I’m realistic and know that likely won’t happen because I’m a junkie and junkies do what junkies do.
 
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